As I stated above, shown with 1/8" Shock Cord.. snug, but smoothly functional.
As I stated above, shown with 1/8" Shock Cord.. snug, but smoothly functional.
I have not tried these yet, but thought about the original post from Shane when I saw the youtube video.
this dude that makes the intense angler tips has some other great ideas as well.
HYOH
Well finished my guy lines and tried my Kelty Noah's 12 x 12. My first attempt at this stuff... learned a lot here guys. I placed a temporary center pole in place, it's an extendable light bulb changing pole (lol)... with a soft rubber ball on the end of it.
I made the guys a little long, cut the Glowire at 12ft, then used 24" of 1/8" shock cord... doubled up 12". A little bit of excessive cord on the Glowire. The setup seems stable...
I plan on just leaving the most frequently used guy lines affixed to the tarp.
I'm open to constructive comments and suggestions?____
Thanks!!!
Got our Scout trip coming up quick...
I predict a high probability of children clothe lining themselves. I recommend you pitch with only two poles. I like my 12' NT with two corners high, two low. It's also nice as a windbreak/rain shelter with only one pole and the other three corners on the ground.
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I had the Kelty Noah's 12 set up all night with the (4) pole setup, it rained last night, downpour but little wind, all fine. This afternoon we were expecting thunderstorms, so I dropped down to 2 poles, added an additional guy line for each of the 2 poles (3) total per ea.
Heavy rain, wether report changed and expecting wind gusts up to 60mph, they never said that earlier, luckily it never occured, it went more north. When I returned, all survived well. However this evening I took a peak outside and noticed that the wind was pretty strong, 25mph gusts with a steady 9mph. One of the poles was down, it had 3 lines on it as I stated, 1 center guy line stake also let loose, the others held. But I noticed now, afterwards, that 2 of these Mini Line Lok's no longer have holding power, the 3rd on this pole is slipping a bit! The v wedge, seems to have opened up and will not hold. I tied a temporary not behind them till I replace them.
Lost some confidence in these little Line Lok's....
That's a bummer to hear. Most everyone here is using the line locks for guys and not ridge lines. I've always used paracord (no shock cord) and a trucker's hitch to tension my Noah's Tarp. I crank down the tension way more than I ever would on my hex tarp's guylines over my hammock.
Do you know how to do a trucker's hitch? I do it differently than Grog shows it, easier to tension one-handed. I can make a video of the technique if you'd like.
Also you could use the plastic figure-9s that came with the tarp.
One more thing: I've never used more than two guys going to the poles, even in significant wind and rain.
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Last edited by clean; 07-23-2013 at 23:50.
Yes, learning… work in progress. From what you have said, I deduct that I simply should not use Line Lok's at the ridge line.
I'd really like to see your version of the truckers hitch, I appreciate that suggestion and offer!
When I dropped from 4 to 2 poles, I used the existing guys, but placed/added a center guy to aid in pulling the Noah taught. I could have just moved the existing 2 guys inboard, not adding the 3rd. (and NOT using the Line Lok)
The pic is the guy tensioner that now comes with the Kelty Noah's, no longer "Figure 9's"
Thank You Clean!
Has anyone else had problems with the line-loks not holding in strong winds? I experienced that when I first set up my SF with this method. The wind blew my lines into a tangled mess and the lines ended up pulled so tightly through the line-loks that the buries of my fixed eyes were pulling through. I attributed the failure of the line-loks to being stretched when that happened, but I would just like to make sure they can handle lots of pressure just so long as they are holding line within the specified size.
I may be dumb, but at least I'm ugly!
I've done so much, with so little, for so long, now I can do anything with nothing.
It's not peer pressure, it's just your turn.
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