finally get the hype

**fred1diver** · 11-25-2010, 18:37

well it took some time for me to get the hype in whoopie slings, but as I just received mine today, I totally get it, man this amsteel is sweet stuff

I ordered the all in one from JRB and must say I can also see what the hype is on dutch biners and clips

just a quick question : are 1 inch tree straps better than 2 inches, just curious, is the 1 inch only better in term of weight

**pizza** · 11-25-2010, 18:39

1 inch is all you need. It's plenty strong.

**exup** · 11-25-2010, 20:07

Just finished making my whoopies today and can totally see how convienent they will be. They were surprisingly incredibly easy to make with no amsteel experience. Now I just need biners. Any suggestions? Sinplicity is gonna be my key point I think. Weights important, but ill add an ounce or two for simplicity.

**Knotty** · 11-25-2010, 20:58

Camp Nano biners are the lightest climbing rated biners available at 23g.
http://www.rei.com/product/798366

Dutch Clips and soft shackles are other options but for simplicity it's hard to beat a traditional biner.

**NCPatrick** · 11-26-2010, 08:28

Originally Posted by Knotty

Camp Nano biners are the lightest climbing rated biners available at 23g.
http://www.rei.com/product/798366

Dutch Clips and soft shackles are other options but for simplicity it's hard to beat a traditional biner.

Don't forget about the Dutch 'biner. From the Jacks 'R Better website: "Dutch Biners measure 1 7/8" by 1" by 3/16" and weigh only 10 grams each or 0.35 ounces."

**exup** · 11-27-2010, 19:10

I looked into the dutch biner but still don't have much knowledge about them yet. I don't know how I feel about biner to hammock, then whoopies, then to tree straps. Deffiently seems like a great option for reducing weight though.

Does anyone use it going from whoopies to tree straps like a traditional carabiner? Or would a 1" tree strap be to much to jam in there along with the whoopie?

**Dutch** · 11-27-2010, 19:32

Originally Posted by thexuprising

I looked into the dutch biner but still don't have much knowledge about them yet. I don't know how I feel about biner to hammock, then whoopies, then to tree straps. Deffiently seems like a great option for reducing weight though.

Does anyone use it going from whoopies to tree straps like a traditional carabiner? Or would a 1" tree strap be to much to jam in there along with the whoopie?

Although you can jam a some of the softer and thinner 1" webbing in a Dutch Biner it was meant to attach amsteel to amsteel. To make it accommodate webbing added weight and weakened the biner. So if that is important I would suggest the Nano biner. I have an amsteel loop on either my hammock or my hugger to attach the biner.

Here is a video showing 2 way they can be used. The second is the way I use it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrYQMW9SHik

**Just Jeff** · 11-25-2010, 21:14

One inch straps are plenty, IMO...it's what I normally use. 2" straps may protect trees better by distributing the weight over a larger area...may be a consideration for heavier people, but there's no evidence to say whether or not it's necessary.

**HikerRanky** · 11-25-2010, 21:32

Originally Posted by Just Jeff

One inch straps are plenty, IMO...it's what I normally use. 2" straps may protect trees better by distributing the weight over a larger area...may be a consideration for heavier people, but there's no evidence to say whether or not it's necessary.

I have the 1 inch straps, and I weighed in at 280lbs at first when I got into hammocking.... The straps held up just fine for me...

**fred1diver** · 11-25-2010, 21:46

thanks for all the quick responses, I'm not worried about the straps not holding me, I was more concerned about the trees and if 1 inch is ok or would 2 inches be better if not overkill!