This is why we hate nylon suspension!!

[Jsaults]

made impulse purchases of the slap straps ("Hey, these look pretty cool!) only to discover how stretchy they were. ENO would have a great product if only they would switch from nylon to polyester.

Jim

[dandeman]

made impulse purchases of the slap straps ("Hey, these look pretty cool!) only to discover how stretchy they were. ENO would have a great product if only they would switch from nylon to polyester.

Jim

definately, one of my buddies has the eno slapstraps and they were so dumb! they are quite heavy and they are nylon. i absolutely agree with you...and besides that, they are WAY more expensive than they are worth.
thanks,
Dan

[dkperdue]

Ebay seller
http://stores.ebay.com/Country-Brook..._fsub=20430346
I got 75 ft of 1 1/2" mid-weight polypro strapping rated around 800 lbs.
Under $14 total
Like this:

1 1/2 Inch 25 YDS Lite Black Polypro Webbing Strap
Item number: 230555782408
http://cgi.ebay.com/1-1-2-Inch-25-YD...item35ae320d08



Ended up making a couple of 15 ft straps each for my son and I. Put a loop in one end on each one. Trees are close, I use it wrapped around the tree with two pieces going through the descender rings at each end.
Trees further apart, Use the loop to get a longer length and just one strap going through the rings at each end.

No problems.
DKPerdue

[exup]

Thanks Dandeman. Sorry, I meant 50' (50 feet). Ill deffiently pick up some of that thread and give it a shot. Hopefully the thread injecter will take it. Last time it was used with some thick, clear polyester thread that might as well been fishing line and it worked but had issues. It may be the needle too. I'm new to all this.

[essbee]

It's hard to understand how straps of any material could stretch enough to lower your hammock 3-4'. That's a lot of stretching! Perhaps your straps are extremely long??

[ozziepom]

Hi Thexuprising,

It's not essential that the loops are sewn into the straps, you can just tie a simple overhand knot. Granted, they don't look quite as neat, but they do work and they are a lot less hassle than getting the machine out. You could have had one of them done already in the time that it takes to read this.

People will say that knots will reduce the strength of the straps, and that's probably true, but it's still not necessarily an issue. Also, I say "probably true" because, unlike knots in cordage, I'm not sure that the extra stresses caused by one portion of strap being on the inside of the radius of the knot is relevant for flat straps.

What I'm trying to say, is that the straps are only about 1mm thick, but they are going to be 25mm or more in width. As a result, the radii formed when you tie the knots will be V. large in proportion to the 1mm thickness of the material, hence any stresses set up will be relatively minor.

It'd be interesting to hear if anyone can either confirm or correct these thoughts?

Of course, I could be completely wrong, (wouldn't be the first time and I bet it won't be the last!), but what I do know for sure is that my own, knotted, straps have lasted for a number of years with no problems. I'll probably have to retire them through abrasion or UV exposure issues before the knots give way.

[dandeman]

It's hard to understand how straps of any material could stretch enough to lower your hammock 3-4'. That's a lot of stretching! Perhaps your straps are extremely long??

yea i know, its crazy! it was only like mabee 20' between the trees, and i did do a mini streach out before i got in for the night...i sat for like 25 sec. to tighten the knots, and then i tightened it all up again to try and prevent any undue stretchage...if thats a word...
Thanks,
Dan