View Poll Results: Where should we relocate the Mt Rogers Hang?

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  • Beyond Wise Shelter along Wilson Creek Trail

    0 0%
  • Old Orchard Shelter north of Wise Shelter

    7 77.78%
  • Bugman's Private Land in Jefferson Natl Forest

    2 22.22%
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    5th annual Mt Rogers hang: Site Change Poll

    Since Doctari is working for a couple of days, I thought I would volunteer to post a poll.

    This poll will close on Thursday, so folks will know where we are going before Christmas.

    For details about each choice, see the recent discussion in the planning thread.
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    Thanks Bugman for the very generous offer. Maybe we can have a hang there when we don't have to worry about snow removal?


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    True that! Always open for you guys to come stay in my lil world lol!
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    Folks this problem has reached critical mass and unless I missed something on the bug man property, ie potential snow blockage.....NONE Of THESE OPTIONS ARE VIABLE OPTIONS.

    ALCON...We are missing the point on good citizenship to continue to consider AT options of across wilson creek and/or the orchard shelter area...Clearly the guidance on shelters and even recommended group size for the AT use are in violation by our plans...Over 10 folk and two successive nights...Futher local information is that the firewood in the orchard area has been pretty well stripped out to a radius of several hundred feet...

    This hang needs to find a home in a vehicle accessable park or private property that will welcome a group of our size.

    Reasonable rental costs or a stipen for landowner are not an issue... The JRB raffle will easily cover pravillion fees etc as it does for the MAHHA in MD each year.

    Find another location or give it up is my vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_pan View Post
    Clearly the guidance on shelters and even recommended group size for the AT use are in violation by our plans...Over 10 folk and two successive nights...
    That interpretation of the ranger's guidance is in conflict with the Jefferson National Forest dispersed camping policy that allows large groups for multiple nights situated at least 150' away from roads, trails, etc, but not in Wilderness Areas or State Parks. We can meet at Old Orchard and hang a ways from it.

    I agree with your criteria, but I don't agree that we should cancel the hang if we can't find a site that fits the bill. If we go beyond Wise, or near Old Orchard, we are doing what the rangers at GHSP suggested that we do. That was part of the guidance.

    PS - I would go to Bugman's in a heartbeat! I think a lot of people would choose not to go, if that were the location, but I don't mind being snowed in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    I don't mind being snowed in.
    said the self-employed man...


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    Regardless of what governing body sets restrictions or where park boundaries are located, the impact of 40 people on any area near the AT is going to be substantial. Also, these areas have already been severely impacted by the large number of people who visit them throughout the year. I'd rather meet at some place that looks more like a forest and try to leave it looking that way, even with a group as large as ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    Regardless of what governing body sets restrictions or where park boundaries are located, the impact of 40 people on any area near the AT is going to be substantial. Also, these areas have already been severely impacted by the large number of people who visit them throughout the year. I'd rather meet at some place that looks more like a forest and try to leave it looking that way, even with a group as large as ours.
    I agree my friend.
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    What are the parking possibilities at Bugman's area then? I'd be happy to go there if I could have some reasonable hope of getting my car unstuck if it should snow like it did at last year's hangout. Shuttle perhaps?


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    Assuming I am able to go, we can use my jeep to shuttle supplies, pull cars out, etc.... 4wheel drive and mud tires, and tow straps, oh my!

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