A no tree hang question

**Roadrunnr72** · 01-07-2011, 18:44

Are the 2x2's stong enough to hold, don't want to end up on the sand, with a bunch of scouts laughing at me.

Originally Posted by oldgringo

Make two bipods ot of 2x2s, use an adjustable rl between them, one anchor on each end...use a 12" plywood disk. Bury those, and you'll be good to go.

**Roadrunnr72** · 01-07-2011, 18:46

Law Dawg- Not a possible. To many others use the beach there.

**oldgringo** · 01-07-2011, 18:47

Originally Posted by Roadrunnr72

Are the 2x2's stong enough to hold, don't want to end up on the sand, with a bunch of scouts laughing at me.

I wondered the same thing, but somebody posted recently that they had used them w/o incident. I would hand pick them.

**Roadrunnr72** · 01-07-2011, 18:54

Ty oldgringo, will have to test at home first.

**pgibson** · 01-07-2011, 18:56

It takes a little more work than just looking at Home Depot, but there are hard wood 2x2 out there. Look at the Madera stand, Maple I think I read someplace.

Pine may not be as good of a choice.

**salamander42** · 01-07-2011, 20:49

I just googled "sand anchors" and among other things found several beach umbrella supports designed to screw into the sand. One claimed to be able to secure an umbrella in up to a 40mph wind. You may be able to use one or two of those at each end for your tie outs.

Also, I think I remember seeing somewhere on the forums someone experimenting with a set-up that only had one pole per end to support their hammock. I think there were about 4 guy lines on each end to keep everything secure. You may be able to stick with two poles at each end, and add more guy lines to compensate for the sand, so each stake has a smaller portion of the load on it.

**Mike_O** · 01-07-2011, 20:59

Road Runner,

Here on the coast I have been expermenting with 2 Aluminum poles and rebar stakes. A length of Amsteel runs between the two poles and 4 rachet straps to the rebar stakes. I have been using 24" of rebar and digging out the hole a little to get to the wetter more compact sand. I'm using Schedule 40 Aluminum pipe that is 6' long but I think that it is way to heavy for a canoe. Taking the skiff over to the beach is one thing but for a canoe you may want to do a search for Warbonnet's post on where he bought his aluminum pipes.

Someone suggested a piece of plywood to bury or you could try something similar to large coffee cans. It is suppose to rain here the next couple of days when I get a chance I'll take some pictures.

**Roadrunnr72** · 01-07-2011, 21:43

That may work. I usually have a scout with me in the canoe, plus our gear. But I think that the pipe may work with the longer rebar for anchors.

Originally Posted by Mike_O

Road Runner,

Here on the coast I have been expermenting with 2 Aluminum poles and rebar stakes. A length of Amsteel runs between the two poles and 4 rachet straps to the rebar stakes. I have been using 24" of rebar and digging out the hole a little to get to the wetter more compact sand. I'm using Schedule 40 Aluminum pipe that is 6' long but I think that it is way to heavy for a canoe. Taking the skiff over to the beach is one thing but for a canoe you may want to do a search for Warbonnet's post on where he bought his aluminum pipes.

Someone suggested a piece of plywood to bury or you could try something similar to large coffee cans. It is suppose to rain here the next couple of days when I get a chance I'll take some pictures.

**oldgringo** · 01-08-2011, 01:34

Roadrunner, incline your bipods like this...\___/...much of the load will be transferred from the anchors to the poles. And don't underestimate the holding power of a deadman, whether it's plywood, can, or buried driftwood. Put them as far as possible from the bipods, bury them well (take a shovel!), and you won't pull them out. Promise.

**Roadrunnr72** · 01-08-2011, 10:44

Originally Posted by oldgringo

Roadrunner, incline your bipods like this...\___/...much of the load will be transferred from the anchors to the poles. And don't underestimate the holding power of a deadman, whether it's plywood, can, or buried driftwood. Put them as far as possible from the bipods, bury them well (take a shovel!), and you won't pull them out. Promise.

I have my 2x4 like that. It is NOT a bipod, just a single piece at each end. Then 2 guy lines off the ends to anchors. Just didn't know if this set up would hold in the sand with the anchors that I first posted about. /\__/\