I just received a HH ultralight backpacker for christmas, and I need to know what the cheapest workable option is for an underquilt or non-pad insulation. thanks.
I just received a HH ultralight backpacker for christmas, and I need to know what the cheapest workable option is for an underquilt or non-pad insulation. thanks.
Cheap and commercial UQ's are not used in the same sentence. Converting a used sleeping bag is probably the quickest cheapest DIY thing to do. There are plenty of resources on this forum for DIY UQ's.
The HH SuperShelter is probably the cheapest non-pad solution...it's technically an open-cell pad, but it's not a 'pad' like other hammock insulation setups. Read up on reviews at BGT, here and whiteblaze before you buy - some folks are very happy with it, others think the "four-season" aspect is oversold.
Also check out the KAQ Potomac. Blackbishop351 is still making them as far as I know. It's less expensive than the down underquilts.
DIY is always an option - it's really not that hard once you get started.
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yep, if you can go the DIY route, you can get what you need to make an under quilt from wal-mart...
light weight fabric from the $1.00 bin. it doesn't have to be rip stop. they almost always have fabrics there that were originally used as suit liners & such. works great.
quilt batting... a sheet of batting sized for a twin bed would give you enough for a single layer.
a double bed size would probably give you enough for two layers.
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I knew they weren't cheap, that's why I was looking for the cheapest option. I set up my HH UL Backpacker in the basement where the temp is about 63 and my back after a while was noticibly colder than the rest of me. I didn't want to drop the money on it (because I don't have it really) but I think I'm going with the nest from Jacks R Better. I really really really didn't want to have to drop the money on it, but I probalby will because it seems to work better than something I could make and is renowned for quality.
I had a nest for a while and it did great. I eventually sold it and bought a Speer Snugfit however and am now very happy with it. No more worries about the down sinking to the bottom leaving the sides without insulation. The Speer is about $140.00 more than the Nest, but if you plan to use it for years, I think I would definitely consider it a very good investment.
Another way is to buy a $125.00 rectangular bag from Campmor and make it easily into a quilt. It will have much more loft than the JRB but will weigh about 2 pounds, which is also the weight of the Speer Snugfit, but not as user friendly or compactable as either the Speer or the Nest. The $125 bag I used was only 550 fill down and the material is heavier too.
Want to be content with your quilt? Buy the Snugfit IMHO. Mule
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Just to confuse you even more, I'd go with the No Sniveler over the Nest. I have both and the hole in the NS makes it really easy to wear as a serape ala Clint Eastwood. Although the Nest can be worn as well. The slit in the Nest is overrated for use in the Hennessy IMO as well as others. Much easier to just push the underquilt aside when entering/exiting.
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how easy is it to attach the no sniveler to the hammock vs the nest? Also, how much of a problem is it really that the down shifts to the middle and leaves you cold?
BlackBishop is not currently making the KAQ as of a few weeks ago, though he may go back into production later.
I have been pretty happy with the HH SuperShelter, especially as I gained experience with it and learned a few tricks to get the most out of it. They show up here and on Ebay on sale from time to time. I think there was a brand new one on sale at Backpackinglight.com just recently. Don't know if it's still available.
My 20* Speer PeaPod III is now out from under the tree and opened, so I can resume testing. It seems to work really great but would probably be way more than you want to spend unless you get one of the less expensive models on sale. But it does have the advantage of at least partially also providing a top layer, so it functions somewhat as sleeping bag as well as quilt. Oh well, it won't work with a Hennessy anyway unless you cut the net off, if even then.
Do you have a spare cheap bag that you can convert to an underquilt?
They attach the same way with the supplied suspension sysytem.
Down shifted to the middle (by you) can be a good thing.
http://www.jacksrbetter.com/index_fi...g%20Tricks.htm
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