It s a bit of a custom winter insert and summer TQ...... bit of overstuff as well. Got it to go into my Black Mamba 0º TQ to boost my winter camping buzz.Originally Posted by lazy river road
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It s a bit of a custom winter insert and summer TQ...... bit of overstuff as well. Got it to go into my Black Mamba 0º TQ to boost my winter camping buzz.
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AAAHHH very cool an hybrid of the 3S and Summer Burrow. So does using two top quilts boost the rating. For example if I used my winter burrow with summer burrow inside? I like to use my JRB fleece liner inside my winter bag makes it feel nice and cozy. But what about to much compression with the two TQ though? I cant wait to the NJ hang to check this gear out if it's warm enough to use my 3S set up instead of winter well just have to see how the wind blows.
Sometimes I like to hike and think, And sometimes I just like to hike.
Hiking is'ent about waiting for the storm to pass its about learning to hike in the rain.
YEAH MAN just got the email from Adam. My burrow was sent out and should be landing on my door step soon. So once it's at my door step I'll take pictures (now that Ive dug up my camera) of my new 3S set up, do a review of the 3S quilts, compare all three seasoned quilts from Adam and do a 1 1/2 yr review of how the gear has been holding up, and what similarities and differences their are (improvements design changes) their are between the quilts. AAHH man I cant wait
Sometimes I like to hike and think, And sometimes I just like to hike.
Hiking is'ent about waiting for the storm to pass its about learning to hike in the rain.
I'm about to pull the ripcord on an Incubator. I have a few questions...
1. I winter camp in temps around 20F-40F. Do I need the winter model for these temps or will the 3 Season suffice?
2. I have a WBBB 1.7. Do you have any problems fitting the hammock? or did you have to do any mods to get it over the footbox?
thanks,
Mine just crossed the border.. I can see it from my house.. come on Canada Post.. hurry!!
I have not had a chance to try my Incubator on the my WBBB yet only on the traveler because if there's no bugs theirs no net. I'm gonna set up the WBBB today and try it out with the incubator today just for fun. And many have used the incubator with the WBBB with much success others have had some difficulties from what I have read but all who had difficulties at first figured it out pretty easily by talking to Adam and reading up on different methods of hanging the UQ. I haven't read any complaints in regards to the efficiency or quality of Adam's gear. I know at first I had a lot of trouble gaining the right sag of the UQ but after talking to Adam and forum members on some tips haven't had any problems since. Their are various methods to keeping the incubator up and around the footbox of the WBBB just takes some tinkering some times and some times it dosent take any it all depends on how you lay some times as well. So many variables in every thing and any thing hammock related
Sometimes I like to hike and think, And sometimes I just like to hike.
Hiking is'ent about waiting for the storm to pass its about learning to hike in the rain.
Got my burrow from the post office today. Blue shell black inards its a beaut. Pics to come tommrow plus a review of my 3 season set up and a look at all 3 seasons quilts summer and winter and how they have held up over the past year
Sometimes I like to hike and think, And sometimes I just like to hike.
Hiking is'ent about waiting for the storm to pass its about learning to hike in the rain.
Ok So now that Ive had my 3 Season Blue Burrow and Incubator for a bit I can finally post a review and some pictures.
Don't know what else to say but these quilts are spot on super fantastically awesome. They are beautifully crafted. Straight as a ruler stitching. They loft up right to where they should be. I love the center draw string for the burrow and the snap on the collar is a great little feature in case I ever have to go to groundtheir is no way that quilt is slipping off my shoulders. The sewn foot box IMHO is the only way to go and I love it. At the winter hang and in the back yard tests these quilts easily kept me warm down to 15 with mid weight long johns, booties and a mid weight long sleeve tee. It's very interesting to have 3 burrows (winter, 3S and summer) and they are all different. It's totally awesome to see how Adam has innovated his quilts over the past few years and has never stopped improving on the development of his TQ. I really like seeing this. When Speaking to his wife Jenny on PM she mentioned that Adam is always trying to improve his quilts and seeing the evolution of the Burrow I can attest that it is certainly true. Now in no way shape or form am I saying that their is any thing inadequate about the originals but simply stating that Adam is constantly improving on his gear which I find to be simply awesome. Improvement and innovation is something I look for in any products or company which is one reason why I have 6 hammock gear quilts. Besides the snap and the center draw string not much has changed on the burrow although a little birdie, well I shouldn't, well actually, No hold back.
Ok now onto the incubator. I got a lot to say about the incubator. First and foremost its awesome. I mean just awesome I have only used a crows nest (Phoenix) to date which I love for back packing but for coziness the incubator takes the cake. I have not had problems of it slipping off my shoulders although I can never remember which end is the foot or shoulder end. I'd suggest putting a color cord lock on one of the ends to help one remember which end is which. I have only used the incubator in the Traveler and when crawling into it its like getting into a toaster over. I do find however that because of the weight of the quilt it does sag a bit in the but area so a piece of shock cord in the center grosgrain loops or diagonally across or triangle thingies fixes this problem. Also Adam includes a 14 ft loop of shock cord which is over kill for a 10 inch hammock ridge line so you can either cut a piece out or tie a loop further down from the original to help it stay snugger against you. As soon as I attached two pieces of shock cord across the ridge line my CBS disappeared which is the path I found easiest for me to keep warm. I actually ended up having to vent the quilt in my back yard test on a day when it was 25 out because I was getting to warm. The tapered ends really makes a great snug fit around the foot area too and the wider shoulders help it not slip. The channels make adjusting the quilt in the hammock nice and easy. It lofts up to right where it should be with no problem. I did find however that if you pull the quilt to tight the top two channels, the down does get a bit compressed so you just have to watch for that so your shoulders don't get cold. It is easily fixed by fluffing it before attaching it as well as not cranking it as hard as you can. IF you pull to tight on the draw channels it compresses the top two channels because you make the baffels smaller and thiner on at the very top (hope that makes sense). This is not a fault of the quilt IMHO but more how one hangs the quilt. IMHO their is a bit more fiddle factor with a full length UQ then a 3/4 UQ one reason why I actually like the 3/4 better. I have no worries that this set will keep me warm down to 15 degrees with light clothing.
And lastly I just love the blue color. Its not bright, matches the sky and just looks pretty IMHO. And I needed a different color then my other quilts. The communication between Adam and myself was nothing less then excellent. Delivery on the quilt was a bit of a wait but that's the price of a top notch hand made piece of gear such as this and I would of gladly of waited twice as long. The Hammock Gear Innovations that ive seen throughout the years has been an excellent evolution of quilts culminating into the modern day Incubator/Phoenix and Burrow. Ive heard that their are some very exciting things to come out of Hammock Gear Inc. but mums the word(as I eluded to earlier in my post). Adam as always thanks for an amazingly awesome product, excellent customer service and all the hard work you and Jenny put into your gear and all that you two do for this community it is truly appreciated. I cant wait to see whats to come next from Hammock Gear cause I know what ever it is, it's going to be [SIZE="7"]AWESOME[/SIZE
Peace
LRR
Sometimes I like to hike and think, And sometimes I just like to hike.
Hiking is'ent about waiting for the storm to pass its about learning to hike in the rain.
Very nice stuff LRR! Hmmmmm that blue looks very familiar, don't know, oh yea I have that same blue on my summer set from Adam, love that blue, just love it! I completely agree about needing them to be color coded makes it a lot easier to figure out which is which without pulling them out of bags, haha!!!
Side note: I am still trying to work things out with work to go on that hike with ya, will let you know!!!
"yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift---thats why its called a present" - Master Oogway
It's always best if your an early riser!
Stopped by HammockGears' Shop today and saw some of the new stuff those guys are working on. You weren't kidding LRR, classy classy classy people in that shop. Workaholics in that shop too! Anyhow, the prototype I got to see today was top notch. Adam broke down all the adjustments and refinements and I can see no expense spared, he definitely put a lot of time and thought into the new design. Whenever I get mine, I'll break it down in a vid. Thanks again for the recommendation to go to Adam and Jen LRR, they'll def get the rest of my quilt business.
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