Panel Tie-outs Lines - Leave them on all the time?

**McSpartan** · 01-20-2011, 17:20

I'm enjoying my new Warbonent Big Mamajamba with stock panel tie-outs. I've used headchange4u's project for adding shock cord with yellow dyneema from Brandon for the corner tie-outs. I really like this idea and the results. THANKS

I attached some dyneema to the panel tie-outs using bowlines. While playing around with different configs for the tarp, specifically porch mode, I got to thinking that I may not want the lines attached to the panels tie-outs, all of the time.
I'm curious what many of you do here for your panels? Would it be better to put a loop on one end of the line and use a toggle or stick right at the panel webbing loop, or do you just keep them attached all the time?

**warbonnetguy** · 01-20-2011, 17:51

i leave them un-rigged except when i need to stake them out (hyot)

**McSpartan** · 01-20-2011, 19:26

Thanks. How do you like to tie them on?

**Joey** · 01-20-2011, 20:05

Tie a loop on the end of your line, stick loop through strap, run line through loop. Easy on, easy off.

**^shane^** · 01-20-2011, 20:21

I leave mine on all the time. Coiled unless deployed. My guy line set up is here.

**McSpartan** · 01-20-2011, 21:49

Originally Posted by Joe Cross

Tie a loop on the end of your line, stick loop through strap, run line through loop. Easy on, easy off.

I thought about this first, then tied the bowline thinking I didn't want to bunch up the web loop under load. That said, perhaps not a big deal on a panel tie out vs. lets say a hammock strap.

**BER** · 01-21-2011, 00:16

Microbiners from AHE also work well. Quick on/off depending on need.

**optimator** · 01-22-2011, 13:03

Originally Posted by ^shane^

I leave mine on all the time. Coiled unless deployed.

Same here. I usually use my tie outs unless I'm in porch mode anyways, so I just leave them on.

**Can't Wait** · 01-22-2011, 13:13

I have a loop on end of shock cord and just run through when I need to use the tie out's too much bulk otherwise. I am thinking I may use the Pizza tip. piece of shock cord tied off to no tangle line less bulk now using 10' shock cord per pull outs

**warbonnetguy** · 01-22-2011, 13:51

Originally Posted by McSpartan

I thought about this first, then tied the bowline thinking I didn't want to bunch up the web loop under load. That said, perhaps not a big deal on a panel tie out vs. lets say a hammock strap.

i have a fixed loop in the end of all my guylines, girth-hitching them on is a super-fast, weightless connect/disconnect. It will bunch the webbing on the panel pulls (because the webbing is wider there), but that won't hurt anything. I make a Y-shape with the panel pull guyline, connecting the looped end of the line with girth-hitch/larkshead, and the other end with 2 slipped half hitches. The stem of the Y is another regular length line with a loop in the end, it is attached to the upper part of the Y the same way (girth-hitch).

The main ground corners are tensioned with something similar to a trucker's hitch, (but without having to make the slipped loop) . I attach them to the tarp the same way (girth-hitch), then take the line around the stake, back to the tarp, and through the corner ring on the tarp. This gives you a 3:1. i just tie it off by wrapping around the other 2 lines 3-4 times and then tie off with a single slipped half hitch.

The tree guylines aren't attached to the tarp beforehand. I instead take the guyline around the tree and stick the plain end through the loop end attaching line to tree. To attach the tarp, I run the line through the RL rings/attachment point on the tarp and tie a slipped buntline at the first end (put it the correct distance from hammock end so your overlap is similar at both ends). If line is really long i'll sometimes tie off with 2 slipped half hitches. The other end is attached via trucker's hitch.