Great review, Mac. When will the canvas pictures be up on mollymacpack.com? "Could not be more better."
Great review, Mac. When will the canvas pictures be up on mollymacpack.com? "Could not be more better."
Its a geographical argument.
Just remember that if you want an economical and extremely lightweight method to prevent moisture from entering your downy goodness use a vapor barrier. Sac or suit
doesn't matter-your moisture won't be going through the sil-nyl (if your vapor barrier is
sil-nyl) and into your insulation. Inside your downy goodness and inside your VPL you'll be warm and damp...the only pain is in the morning when you climb out of that warm wetness and put on your hiking clothes. It can be a shock you'll never forget-damp and naked at 8F--but you'll get out of the VPL and into clothes quickly!
The same lightweight economical approach has been used for a long time on the feet with bread sacks against skin and then the socks-same principle, the plastic bag prevents moisture from entering the socks/boots.
If you live in the north country you'd def. have a lot of canvas items or even Ventille...in the south where as mentioned above below zero is rare, there is this optional approach using VPLs. It's up to each hiker/paddler/explorer of course to weigh
the humidity, the temps at hand, how much you want to carry and make your decision.
Mac, thanks for the info. Personally I find breathable & highly wind resistant outer gear to be a necessity for cold winter outdoor comfort.
Heavy weight may not be necessary except for durability, abrasion resistance. Have a very old & much used light "canvas" anorak. Not 100% cotton. Material is densely woven from a relatively fine thread. Very windproof and very breathable. Very soft feel. Zero waterproofing. A plus is the body moisture "wicks" to the outer surface and then freezes. Never feel wet unless temps are warm or after coming in from the cold. Key is wearing the proper base layer(s). Used from +12,000 ft in the mountains to here in midwest during the winters. Ski touring, X/C training, winter runs, snowshoeing. Just came in from a run wearing it. Bit faded & getting "thin" in some areas.
Maybe the people at ECW would consider a 3 or 6 oz weight canvas?
Noel V.
Au contraire. It's a temperature and humidity concern. If temps will be below 20*F, you can use breathable footwear and outerwear.Originally Posted by Medicine Man
I understand the alternative to a completely breathable layered approach, but the idea of waking up warm and moist has no appeal for me!
I carry Tingley's 17" Rubber Overboots just in case there is a warmup... I would switch out the anorak for a lightweight poncho, if wet precipitation made that necessary. Otherwise, if the forecast shows no chance of temps above 25*F, I'll go with canvas.
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Dave
"Loneliness is the poverty of self; solitude is the richness of self."~~~May Sarton
At the Minnesota Frozen Butt my sleep system included wearing my 24 oz wool pants and my Empire Canvas Works blanket shirt,both which were worn during the day, both which aloowed breathability. It was like sleeping w/a wool blanket. There was no need to wake up wet and get naked.
" Wiggs "
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