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    Senior Member Alamosa's Avatar
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    CSASRLS - Continuous Single Adjustable Structured Ridge Line Suspension

    I had originally posted this on another thread, but decided to start a new thread for it with my test results. It is basically a Continuous Single Adjustable Structured Ridge Line Suspension or CSASRLS for short.

    I swapped out the whoopie slings on my winter hammock to give it a try.

    This is how it works:
    1) Tree huggers on both ends with marlin spikes.

    2) For the suspension line, I buried a loop onto one end of the 7/64 amsteel line and left the other open.

    3) I whipped a piece of amsteel onto each end of the hammock so that it had a tail just over a foot long hanging off to connect the hammock to the suspension line. I finished them off with end burys. (one foot plus the bury)

    4) I buried the suspension line into each of the connectors so they pull in opposite directions. So, the first side I buried into the tail by the bury and exited close to the hammock. The second I entered close to the hammock and exited close to the bury.

    So, to hang the hammock, you place the loop on one end of the suspension line over the marlin spike.





    You hitch the other end to the marlin spike on the other tree, much like a mooring hitch for a boat.



    This gives you a full line going across the tree huggers (think of a full line under your tarp). You can just see the bishops bag on the far right.



    The hammock will slide along the entire suspension line (again like a tarp). Position the two ends and constrict the connectors on the suspension line. I backed them with prussics to keep tension on the back end.



    The portion of the suspension line between the two connectors becomes the hammocks ridge line. I have a mark on the hammock that I use to set the correct distance.

    Want to adjust the ridge line, move a connector. Didn't get the foot end higher, slide the hammock that way.



    You just slide the bishops bag down the suspension line while stuffing. The utility constrictor slides easily along until the bag is in the starting positions.



    So far this is working great.
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    Wow that's a pretty cool idea!

    Any chance to get a vid of this going up?

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    It's cool, but it looks like a lot of work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
    Wow that's a pretty cool idea!

    Any chance to get a vid of this going up?
    I'll try to get one made, but it may be a little bit before I have time.

    Quote Originally Posted by optimator View Post
    It's cool, but it looks like a lot of work.
    Which part seems like a lot of work, making it or using it?

    It probably takes about 15 minutes to make and attach to the hammock.

    Including tree huggers, I could probably set it up within 2 minutes. Take-down is probably about the same.

    I tried to go into a lot of detail so there was no confusion, but it is really very simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alamosa View Post
    I'll try to get one made, but it may be a little bit before I have time.



    Which part seems like a lot of work, making it or using it?

    It probably takes about 15 minutes to make and attach to the hammock.

    Including tree huggers, I could probably set it up within 2 minutes. Take-down is probably about the same.

    I tried to go into a lot of detail so there was no confusion, but it is really very simple.
    I dunno. I guess I just like the simplicity of wrapping the end of a strap, clipping a biner, done.

    BTW, love your Lou Holtz quote!
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    Crafty. I will have to think if I can adapt that to my WBBB. I use Zing it fir my RL so I don't think I can connect the two different thickness lines but that is cool.
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    this looks quite interesting to me, just as a single tarp ridge line interests me.

    what i can't get through my head, how the hammock attaches to the single line, and what is to keep it in place, like not sliding inwards to hammock center?

    I'll be keeping my eye on this thread. can't wait to see how this progresses. could catch on very cool idea

    a name that can be remembered would be a cool way to refer to it , rather than CSASRLS I look at that and my brain stalls lol . slow brain what can I say, guilty :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mud__Bone View Post
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    what i can't get through my head, how the hammock attaches to the single line, and what is to keep it in place, like not sliding inwards to hammock center?
    Think 2 UCRs---each one attached to the end of the hammock---that happen to be buried on the same line that in spanning the space between the hammock serves also as a ridgeline.

    Interesting that this works. In all the other applications of "bury technology" discussed 'round here, the direction of the tension on the line into which the other is buried is more or less parallel to the bury itself. Here there is a distinct angle between the two cords that is going to be working to pull open the bury entrance.

    With repeated use I'd keep an eye on those entrances to see how the bury entrance stands up to this.
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    @ Mud Bone: I've already started thinking of this as "The Alamosa Project". Of course that would seem to limit Alamosa to just this one project, a fate I couldn't endure myself.

    @ Griz: I agree. Watch for the braid stretching out where the suspension rope exits the connectors. However, didn't Samson say that wouldn't compromise line strength? I wonder how reliable those prussics will be maintaining the constriction when the pull at the other end is always trying to open it up. Should the bury be longer than usual to compensate?

    @ Alamosa: Keep up the good work, and thanks for sharing this with us. Have you used this setup in places where the trees were farther apart? The increased force on the suspension line if you need to tighten it up to keep the hammock off the ground may change things. You could put your tree straps higher on the trees, but there are limits. From your pictures I'm already guessing that you're taller than I am. Also, can you post a close-up photo of the prussic holding the connector taut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    @ Mud Bone: I've already started thinking of this as "The Alamosa Project". Of course that would seem to limit Alamosa to just this one project, a fate I couldn't endure myself.
    Don't wish that on me, I already have a handful of projects underway!

    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    @ Griz: I agree. Watch for the braid stretching out where the suspension rope exits the connectors. However, didn't Samson say that wouldn't compromise line strength? I wonder how reliable those prussics will be maintaining the constriction when the pull at the other end is always trying to open it up. Should the bury be longer than usual to compensate?
    That may be necessary. I want to find a better and shorter backing for the constrictor than the prussic as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    @ Alamosa: Keep up the good work, and thanks for sharing this with us. Have you used this setup in places where the trees were farther apart? The increased force on the suspension line if you need to tighten it up to keep the hammock off the ground may change things. You could put your tree straps higher on the trees, but there are limits. From your pictures I'm already guessing that you're taller than I am. Also, can you post a close-up photo of the prussic holding the connector taut?
    This is the only close-up I have right now. The blue amsteel is the continuous line, the grey is the constrictor, and the black paracord next to the bishops bag is the prussic. Both my test setup and first hang had trees about 18 feet apart.

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