Yes, what skskinner asked. It will kill me to get home and find I don't have it cuz I wasn't home to sign for it. Also was it USPS?
"Packs small and light" - OH YEAH BABY! music to my ears Hector!
And Dang IT, where is MINE! I think I'll go ahead and pitch the speer winter tarp in the back yard now and have it ready so I can put up the no net under it and try it out as soon as it gets here.
Yes, you have to sign for it, and yes it was USPS.
I ordered carabiners, spectra and polyester webbing loops for it last night. The webbing that comes with it ain't worth carrying. But you sorta expect that with a "storebought" hammock, right?
Hector, what's the weight of your new double bottom hammock? Have you tried it with a pad in the pocket? Any problems with that?
I'll put it on the scale tonight, but feels like a pound to me. I'll weigh it without the webbing that came with it, but with the stuff sack. My old postal scale is only good to about 1/2 oz so don't get too worked up. I haven't tried a pad in the double-bottom with someone in it, but I don't see how it could screw up. It's open on one side most of the way.
I actually got this for my twin 9-year-olds for winter camping; I plan to put one full pad and two 1/2 pads in and let them sleep in there together, opposite each other. We'll see how it works out.
I use a Big Agnes bag with pad sleeve so I'm good to go in anything; just toss in the bag/pad combo with the bag open, sit in the middle of the pad and swivel 90°, zip up as required by temperatures. So, in the winter I use a TreeHugger hammock (very like an ENO or TrekLite). In the summer, when the bugs are out in force, I use a Hennessey Explorer Deluxe and a fleece sleeping bag (into the 60°s at night) or even just a Coolmax sheet when it's really hot and humid, no pad.
Okay, here's the lowdown: The hammock with the webbing weighs about 1 lb. 7 oz. Without the webbing it weighs about 1 lb. 3 oz. This is according to an old sliding-weight postal scale that weighs up to 7 lbs or so.
A 40" wide Oware pad fits into the hammock's double bottom. In fact, you could probably fit two in there end-to-end with about a foot of overlap. A "standard blue ccf" pad fits in on a diagonal and more-or-less stays there while you get in, then your weight seems to keep it in place. The Oware works better. I'd say that for stability, wider pads are better for use between the layers. You can tell you're on a pad, but that doesn't bother me.
It needs to be hung with plenty of sag or you get pretty severe shoulder squeeze.
The provided webbing is indeed a PITA with a lot of stretch. Easy to improvise a good support system, though.
Here's a bonus for those who have a Z-Rest lying around -- the double bottom actually makes the old accordion pad usable in a hammock.
Dang it! I got home today and NOTHING!
Thanks for the info Hector. The weight sounds good to me. I just got a 40 inch pad, so wohoo! sounds like that will work well.
Do you think that since it needs a lot of sag, the webbing is self correcting, like you pull it tight, then when you get in, it stretches to give the proper sag? Anyway, I prefer rope to webbing so I'll be converting it over - leave the webbing in the sewn tube to distribute load, then tie it to switch to spyder line, that is once I get the darn thing. Anyone else received theirs yet?
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