What is the weight of that Campmor 10x10 ? That Neo 9x9 was something like 1 lb 10 oz or so.... Campmor used to make an uncoated tarp with tabs for 16 oz about 10 years ago (I still have mine in the "old gear" locker)...but everything I've seen over there is now coated, in this size, and way heavier...
Also.... all this discussion on tarps rigged at 13+ feet limits/ eliminates the use of trees spaced 11-14 feet apart... plus longer space hangs, all other things equal, means higher tie points for the suspension for any given preferred "hang" height of the hammock...
Not saying this is not a good idea... just saying there is more to size than just coverage...
I hope you won't mind a new guy bursting into this conversation.
You can always fold or roll the end of an over-length tarp to shorten it. Tie a small pebble into the material to create a temporary but serviceable tie-out point.
A buddy of mine recently bought a 3 x 4 meter (10' X 13') tarp and I think I'll get one similar - the range of available pitches with a bigger tarp outweighs the weight penalty for me. A dry area for cooking, dressing, or just to have somewhere to stand during a torrential downpour is well worth it.
I've been using two Ex Brit Army "Basha's" (about 6' 6" x 8') up to now, they have pop-studs to join together and work OK on the diagonal when I'm certain there'll be no rain, other than that, its both together or the new bigger one when I get it.
Ogri the trog
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Ogri the trog, et al,
Welcome to the discussions... new guys are always welcome.... they often bring a new perspective...or even if an old point, we all rethink the issue together...which is good IMHO.
Good point on shorting a tarp with a pebble and a loop hitch... Personally I try to use gear within its design parameters.... very light gear, silnyl, spinnyl etc are prone to damage if not careful.... additionally, if shortening by the method you suggested, the sides may not tension well and you may have to put up with a bit of noise/flapping... extra tie outs may help.... but it is a technique worth remembering if one really wants to use a couple trees that are too close.
The campmor 10x10 is listed at 32 oz. I did a quick look and they also have a 9x9 that weighs 23 oz. I'm a little suspicious that a foot off two sides equates to 9 oz. (Especially when a 7x9 weighs 20 oz. and that's about another 2 foot hacked off.)
Does anyone have one of these?
i understand the concerns about depending on gear that you have to be careful with.
it`s taken me a while to learn to have confidence in the stuff i`m using now.
a person really shouldn't just jump into lightweight gear all at once. it`s a learning process that takes time. you have to adjust your thinking.
as you come familiar w/ using light weight material, you become familiar w/ it's limitations & begin to keep that in mind. ...tim
don`t leave the CREATOR out of the creation!