SUL sub 6lb kit

[Gqgeek81]

A cuben kilt? isn't cuben always kind of transparent? The horror


I am seriously impressed. I keep looking at the weight of the hammock/sleeping insulation and thinking how crazy it is that its about a pound lighter together than either my HH or a Cat's Meow on their own.


Need some pictures of the backpack. I'm curious how much room you have to spare inside.
At that weight it would probably all fit inside a waist pack, though I don't know such a thing would be lighter than what you're using. might be more comfortable.

Pictures!!!!!

Man.... my phone is heavier than most of the items in that kit.

[tonejones]

thanks all. the reason I posted this is to get a critique. I want to get lighter and the way to do it is to get ideas and in return to those who read this is to give ideas to those who didn't think it could be done with a hammock. Ill post pics or a video soon. Don't be expecting a shug quality vid. keep it coming! p.s no even noticed the cuben phoenix!

[Highbinder]

Very cool. A few questions tho: i see no fak or basic 'survival' equipment (compass, etc); no knife as well?; and no bugnet? No problems with that? This year I slept right up into may with no net but sleeping on long underwear with a buff over my face to deter the mosquitos, but it's too hot for that now.

[Otter1]

Highbinder,

He does reference first aid / hygiene

[Shewie]

p.s no even noticed the cuben phoenix!

Yeah I did but thought I wouldn't tease myself by asking for details

[exup]

Good job buddy! Btw, I've always heard it as GLP and te-wa said it. I'm no one to citique as I am around 8lbs current for 3 season but a few things I may be able to suggest would be:

Sp 700 could go to a 600, even more so a evernew titanium 500ml (16.9oz) with lid and handles is 2.4oz. The 3 seaon burrow could be a summer burrow, potentially with over fill to extend your "summer" season load down to 30degrees. Cuben if Adam starts making it with TQs. That right there is $200+ for maybe 5-6oz. At this point I'd slow down. Don't spend all your money on making a pack lighter that's already super light. 5lbs probably feels the same as 6lbs, like nothing haha. But hey, where's the fun in that.

Oh yeah, nano biners could go the toggles, this in my experience may require longer tree straps, or extenders though.

I noticed it should know the feeling in a couple weeks.

[Mancat]

There was a sub 5lb kit over at bpl. The guy had a very minimal amount of gear. Now I am all for going ultralight, but there comes a point where you really start sacrificing comfort and sometimes safety to reach the weight goal. That isn't a big deal when you are hiking somewhere like RRG where your car is usually no more than a couple hours away, but when you are thru hiking somewhere like the AT or KT you have to be careful. Just my thoughts. YMMV. Honestly that is a nice kit.

[Raul Perez]

Impressive, most impressive. I got as low as 7lbs but I really wanted to bring a few items I use to film and certain clothes and what not I preferred. So for summer I sit around 9lbs, 3 season I'm at 10.5lbs.

As GLP and Te-Wa (aka flying squirrel) stated SUL is below 5lbs and UL is below 10lbs.

[tonejones]

I wanted to get your attention with the SUL heading in hopes of getting rid of the last .9lbs. I have read backpacking light I dont know how many times and understand the SUL chapter very well. The top quilt is a summer with over fill. Adam told me it is the same one he has been using and I have had it in the mid 30's no prob. The only piece i haven't used is the cuben uq. Adam is putting the finishing touches on it as we speak and have been told it will weigh in at +-8 oz. The cuben top quilt is a no go for me because of the breathing factor. cuben is a vapor barrier and next to skin will make you sweat. The cup thing I have been thinking about going lighter. I have used a beer can pot and dont like the whole lining thing when I am boiling in it. The 700 gives me the ability to make coffee and make a meal. I have the mini atomic boiling 2cups in under 5min with about an oz of fuel. just like the set up. oh by the way my swiss classic, compass, and light are on a lanyard around my neck at all times, not in the pack

[tonejones]

Hey this is hammock camping. I have always associated that stigma with ground dwellers.
For a hammock hanger has to carry more in the ways of a bigger tarp, under quilt and the hammock its self with the suspension. I think we as hangers should be able to decide on our own as light, ultra light and SUL . LOL