Thanks for everyone's help It will be my first time hangin this weekend. With all your help I converted to the marlin spike hitch and whoopie slings...whoopie! Made a pad extender (6 wings) Snakeskins for the hammock and a small bishop bag for the stock tarp. Took me a couple of weekends and the best thing is that I made it all by myself. Of course, I didn't sew, I made gear!