Any Ideas for backpacking?
Any Ideas for backpacking?
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I camp in bear country and I am a bear Burrito.
Hike in the woods.
This system works really well from my truck or strapped to my motorcycle trailer. With secured endcaps you could haul it on your back easy but it would be a bunch of weight AND you'd look like you were on the way to the mount for your crucifiction. I can see modding it to get the pole length down but that's just going to add more weight.
Hike in the woods.
Hello everyone. Sorry I have not formally introduced myself. I will post to the introductions after this.
I recently discovered the world of hanging. I live on the beach and instantly started trying to think of a way to hang treeless. It appears this topic has been looked at pretty thoroughly, and I am really impressed with what you guys have come up with!
I was trying to think of a lightweight treeless design (possibly backpackable) and I did some drawings of ideas I had. Still haven't gotten to play around with any of them, but thought I'd share if anyone can take anything away or add anything. I see that many different materials have been discussed. Through my research I found some carbon fiber on everyone's favorite auction site. http://www.ebay.com/itm/22mm-X-20mm-...item1e704168ae
I wondered if anyone has had any experience with the stuff to know if it is legit, or if it's just PVC with carbon fiber sticker on it
The only difference in my designs are that I initially thought there would need to be a reverse force on the top of the support poles to counteract the downward/inward force when under load (but I see that this is not the case).
If I ever get to actually play with the designs I will be sure to post pictures, but I wanted to at least share the designs for anyone to take a look at.
Initial design Hammock Stand Design 9-4-2012 comp.jpg
Initial design with stabilizing guylines Hammock Stand Design with guy lines 9-4-2012 comp.jpg
Initial design with tarp. I tried to find a way to run the guylines using as few stakes as possible Hammock Stand Design with Tarp 9-4-2012 comp.jpg
Tried to draw it better and get more stabilization New design Stand comp.jpg
With tarp New design Tarp comp.jpg
Perhaps these could work? http://www.kelty.com/p-134-adjustable-pole.aspx
I saw a review on amazon how a guy used two of them on the beach. Maybe they'd be strong enough to use only one on each side.....maybe?
That happened to me and I just slid them together out of the box.
Well I called DX and they replaced my order, great to deal with!
They also told me that they are designed to slip together and be clamped, not slid together and un slid lots of times.
I want them to telescope together so they collapse into each other to save space.
They are not designed for that.
Next I ordered every other size so there is more clearance.
I plan to make some sleeves to fill the gap and glue (super glue or epoxy) the sleeve on each end.
Trying to make sense here
I cut a strip out of an old bleach bottle about 2 inches wide and wrapped it around one end on the inside of a tube.
That slides tight. Next I have to take a strip like that and wrap it on the outside on the other end of the tube that goes in it. Still trying to find a glue that sticks to the plastic.
I wound up buying two larger tubes besides my order, and now I have a couple left over, but they are cheap enough that it does not concern me. Figure it's the cost of experiment and development.
What I wound up with to use is three tubes every other size so the gap between them is one wall thickness plus the original gap.
Probably only need to use two tubes if I only need them to be 5 and a half feet long, but the third will make it about eight feet! From what I read on the forum I will not need even close to eight foot posts.
If I cut a bit off of each tube, they will telescope together to make a reasonable length for motorcycle camping and still expand quite long. I have not pinned down how much to trim yet.
Oh, I tried putting a block of wood on the end of the tubes that stuck and hammered on them mightily. Can't see any damage, so they are tough, but I could not unstick them. They are permanent!
Please don't plan on telescoping them with the small clearance, just skip one size and go to the next.
Last edited by petez; 09-12-2012 at 08:31. Reason: more info
I am trying a bipod portable hammock stand using your stake booms. What I am having problems with is if I don't get the same distance on each stake, then one takes more force and pulls out taking the other with it. I have tried to step the distance to each stake but still having problems. Any suggestions?
Also, if you do try gluing to the aluminum poles, make sure and prep the aluminum beforehand by etching the surface with vinegar.
I'm stoked to see how your project turns out! Keep us posted.
Just adding to the brainstorming here...
Perhaps you could skip the plastic all together. Instead, maybe you could apply JBWeld or epoxy to the aluminum, and let it cure. Then sand it down to the OD you need to fit the female end of the other pole.
I've been thinking of a way to fabricate lightweight telescoping poles myself and found these:
Probably don't even need them if the aluminum poles fit tightly enough together, but thought I'd share.
1) I would guess that you want to lengthen your guy-lines. With shorter lines and sharper angles at the connection with the pole, the force on the boom gets much higher and the angle is more pulling up than through the boom to the stake. 45* at the top of the poles is a minimum. 60* is better.
2) Set your booms first and then let the guy-lines establish the position of the pole(s). This will allow you to make sure both lines are equally tight. With a little practice you will be able to set one end, step off to the stake position on the other and end up with the proper spacing.
We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. - Ben Franklin
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