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    Senior Member JPsax's Avatar
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    Is this safe to do with a Nacrabiner

    Made a pair and wanted to incorporate them so if something failed I could use them real quick without having to shove them in a pocket.....im only 160 pounds will this hold? ......is it safe? I dont want to pull a shug cinch buckle fail
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    Should be fine as long as its a good knot. Can't tell because I'm on my phone.
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    I'm no expert, but I'll use my logic here. The force exerted on the straps is reduced by friction as you go around the tree. If you wrap enough times, the friction alone will hold the weight. Even with one wrap, the amount of force put on that connection point, whether it be a carabiner, dutch clip, or nacrabiner, will be less than the original force coming from the strap. (Unless you find a magical frictionless physics book tree...) Assuming all the parts of the system are set up correctly, it should be just fine. Some may pipe up about "fabric on fabric," but that isn't a concern in a situation like this. Happy hanging!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefprez View Post
    Some may pipe up about "fabric on fabric," but that isn't a concern in a situation like this.
    I want to put down the fabric on fabric rumors right now. The "rumors" stem from the fact that when synthetic fibers rub against each other, they can begin to melt due to their low melting points and the heat created by the friction. This is a significant concern for the climbing community, and has even been tested a few times by independent testers. If I remember correctly, they had a hard time breaking anything. We use fabric on fabric in a ton of places. Prussik knots (or other friction knots) are a great example. With this setup, the nacrabiner and webbing aren't sliding past each other. They are stationary. While it's always good to inspect your setups, I'd be shocked if you noticed any significant wear anytime soon. I use girth hitches of spectra/dyneema runners around my nylon belay loop on my harness as a short clip in point. I've had my harness for I think 4 or 5 years now, and I still trust my harness without hesitation. (Granted, it is thicker than the webbing we use around trees.) All in all, the spots you will see fabric on fabric wear is places like a power cinch, where you create a loop in the line and use it as a pulley to tension a ridgeline. Try it once, and you'll see the wear. Stationary fabric on fabric connections are completely fine from every experience I have ever seen and read about.

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    Looks good from here.
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    In my not so expert opinion, if it's holding, it's holding. Just remember rule 1 of hammocking, don't hang higher than you're willing to fall.
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    I used a diamond knot on the biner thanks for the input guys!
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    I have been using on on my hammock suspension....Dutch Clip on one strap...nacrabiner on the other. Been watching then.
    So far it has held like a champ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    I have been using on on my hammock suspension....Dutch Clip on one strap...nacrabiner on the other. Been watching then.
    So far it has held like a champ.
    Shug
    Any particular reason for the clip on one, nacrabiner on the other shug? or just to experiment?
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