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    Senior Member bmwrider's Avatar
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    Wouldn't this work

    I'm trying to avoid using knots for now

    I have seen people use a biner and to rings for tension, wouldn't just using two biners at each end without the rings work as well? it seems that the two biners would bite just like the rings.

    I would like to try some things that don't require modifying the hammock just yet, I would like to start with the easy stuff first.
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    It should work as well as the rings, but I think it will be a little bit heavier than the rings.
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    i think it would slip. the rings stack on one another and pinch the strap evenly between them because they are slightly offset but tangent. biners have contours which will reduce surface contact. the other issue I see is biners have a smaller gap at the top and bottom, generally not the same width as the strap unlike on a ring, most of them have a diameter equal or greater. the smaller opening on a biner would cause the strap to fold which wouldn't allow proper clamp force within the joint.

    if you're looking for simplicity, how come you just dont feed one end of the tree stap into itself and tighten around the tree then just the other eyelet, do a couple loops through with the rope and a few half hitches?
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    true if you use only rings, although I think most people use one biner and two rings at each end for a total of four rings and two biners I'm thinking of a total of four biners and zero rings, four camp nanos may be lighter than than two biners and four rings

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    No rings and no biners.
    Whoopie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bloomgorge View Post
    i think it would slip. the rings stack on one another and pinch the strap evenly between them because they are slightly offset but tangent. biners have contours which will reduce surface contact. the other issue I see is biners have a smaller gap at the top and bottom, generally not the same width as the strap unlike on a ring, most of them have a diameter equal or greater. the smaller opening on a biner would cause the strap to fold which wouldn't allow proper clamp force within the joint. if you're looking for simplicity, how come you just dont feed one end of the tree stap into itself and tighten around the tree then just the other eyelet, do a couple loops through with the rope and a few half hitches?
    This is why I'm here. info like this helps alot, sometimes a thought doesn't work out the way you planned and you learn the hard way, its better to ask first

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    When I have seen ring set ups in the past the rings are larksheaded directly to the hammock, no biner required. Then you would only have 4 rings.
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    1 biner per end
    OR
    1 ring per end

    Using the method at 2:00 here

    Simple, half the weight of 2 of either the ring or the biner.

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    I think you are referring to a garda hitch? If so, I found that with the thin rope that comes standard on HH BP UL, the descending rings did not hold. Two lightweight biners(as opposed to standard weight round stock biners) worked well and would hold fine. But after seeing the rope afterward and then reading up on it here, I abandoned the garda hitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcavenagh View Post
    I think you are referring to a garda hitch? If so, I found that with the thin rope that comes standard on HH BP UL, the descending rings did not hold. Two lightweight biners(as opposed to standard weight round stock biners) worked well and would hold fine. But after seeing the rope afterward and then reading up on it here, I abandoned the garda hitch.
    The Garda hitch is not recommended for hammock suspension.

    The method I was referring to is best described as a "double slippery half hitch".

    A slippery half hitch with an additional slippery half hitch pulled through the loop created by the first hitch.

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