went all out today .got my hennessy ultra lite backpacker and snake skins and 5 yards of uncoated ripstop to make hugger and 5 yards of 1.1 sil to make a undercover now on to the down fill .ps have never even seen one of these things setup. let along been in one. i hope i like it .till it gets here? cool beans and back to the biv.sack for one more trip later