I've been blessed to have backpacked or trekked for for over 50 yrs now, and have know lots of real trekkers as i know a lot of you have, and a few yr ago when I discovered hammocks i bemoaned the fact it took me so long, but i find myself having to explain to folks when i mention I hammock now, that is not the back yard rope type, most still don't get it. But what I've really noticed is in the world of BP mag there's a lot , A LOT, of wanna be's, they read it the same way a lot of men read playboy mag, they look at all the pictures of places they're not ever going to visit, only dream about. the one thing that is great about this forum, is the vast majority have been and done of what they speak, jim