Thanks to jima59 I can include myself in the group of Black Bird owners who now hang with whoopies. I loved the adjustable webbing setup that Brandon put on the Black Bird. However, I recently recieved a full blown custom hammock from our own G.L.P. complete with whoopies and tree straps. After that first hang, I was hooked. Not only are the whoopies a very light weight, easily adjustable and quick to setup way to hang a hammock,they are also very nice to look up at while hanging in sweet sweet luxury. Thanks again to jima59