Amsteel Loops

[raiffnuke]

...Melting or back splicing. Shrink tubing works well.

[Bubba]

How do you guys fix the cut ends of your Amsteel?


Jamie - nfa

I have used shrink wrap in the past.

[Rug]

As far as weight goes the knot combination should work fine for weight-bearing since the Prusik loop (using triple fisherman's) was made for rescue climbing. The weight-bearing abilities of that size Amsteel using those knots (for weight-bearing they suggest using the triple fisherman's)... now I don't know about that

Either way it's probably a good knot to learn so that you can make a safe/secure loop when you are out in the woods and aren't able to splice something.

Dave

It is a simply because I thought I had read on this forum that the double & triple fishermans knot had pulled through on amsteel. On paracord it is safe, but IIRC the article posted that amsteel was too slipery and pulled through itself.

Yes it is a good knot to use, and to know, I was just trying to repeat what I had read here.

[Pretbek]

It is a simply because I thought I had read on this forum that the double & triple fishermans knot had pulled through on amsteel. On paracord it is safe, but IIRC the article posted that amsteel was too slipery and pulled through itself.

Yes it is a good knot to use, and to know, I was just trying to repeat what I had read here.

Would a double sheet bend be better, as it doesn't rely so much on friction to hold it but has the cord itself that loops through to hold the knot?

[RootCause]

It is a simply because I thought I had read on this forum that the double & triple fishermans knot had pulled through on amsteel. On paracord it is safe, but IIRC the article posted that amsteel was too slipery and pulled through itself.

Yes it is a good knot to use, and to know, I was just trying to repeat what I had read here.

I leave a little extra (1/4" - 3/8") tail on the Amsteel, and so far haven't had a double fisherman's pull through yet.

As a little extra insurance, I melt the ends of my amsteel cuts and try to make it into a glob that won't pull through the knot.

[oldgringo]

Bury the tag ends...it looks neater, and the constriction provides a bit of insurance.

[Knotty]

If you must use knots in Amsteel, then go with the triple fishermans bend.

In general Amsteel (Dyneema) does not do well with knots because of two main issues.
1. It is very slippery and tests have shown that knots can slip at even a small fraction of the rope's rated tensile strength.
2. It is very weak in compression so knots can seriously compromise the ropes strength.

[MadRacDad]

Rank amateur here, I've made several CL's with amsteel it is quite easy and fun. As others have said it doesn't take long to learn and looks\functions much better, my 2 cents.

[NFA]

Thanks for all of the replies! I'm going to try both, and see which works best for me. I've already made a couple of the CLs using the triple fisherman's knots, and will try a few using the splicing info that people posted.

Jamie-nfa