Has Tinny lost his touch?

**MacEntyre** · 10-13-2011, 10:51

Tinny has done it again... after telling us we don't need tree straps, he's now telling us how to use Insultex. Here is his video.

Tinny found that 8 layers of Insultex did the trick for him... using it as a pad inside the hammock. That indicates that he does not do much research on the work that others already have done (what he calls "dogma"). Here on HF, there are many threads discussing how to make the most of Insultex with hammocks, based on years of experience and dozens of prototypes.

One thing that we found is that Insultex does not perform well when compressed, which is what happens when we lay directly on it. What Tinny has discovered is that it takes 8 layers to overcome the ill effects of compression.

Tinny was trying to feel the warmth with ambient conditions about 55*F, and found that it takes 8 layers of IX. Thing1 and I regularly use a Baby Orca with three layers of IX down to freezing. His 10 oz pad is much smaller than a Baby Orca 3/4 UQ, which weighs about half that, including the suspension.

I suppose his next video will be to announce his ground breaking discovery: suspend the Insultex underneath the hammock for better results!

Tinny is a real innovator. I love my mini-Atomic alcohol stove. With hammocks suspensions and insulation, he seems to have lost his touch.

- MacEntyre

**flatline** · 10-13-2011, 11:05

i think, if you stack 43 layers and use a paddle, one could cross the Atlantic?

**NewtonGT** · 10-13-2011, 11:06

I kind of thought it was a waste to use 8 layers instead of just going the UQ route with it

**Roadtorque** · 10-13-2011, 11:10

Yeah, watching that video forced me into making my first youtube comment letting him know he needs to hang it like a uq. His reply was his "research" says otherwise. To each his own but he lost a lot of credibility with that one. Awesome builder of stoves, hammocks...well...someone needs to join hammock forums!

**G.L.P.** · 10-13-2011, 11:17

I stopped watching Tinny a year ago...

it seems like there are videos where he is off his meds or something i dunno
But your right Mac he never does his homework on anything ... there are a few
videos that just make me go WOW

**angrysparrow** · 10-13-2011, 11:20

Guys, this thread seems to be about a person rather than gear. Let's keep things focused please.

**NewtonGT** · 10-13-2011, 11:59

I think hes a good guy. I was just commenting on the insultex part. like in my opinion its a waste of 8 layers which could have been an uq or 2 or a isulated sock which is the way I would have gone.

**Ewker** · 10-13-2011, 11:59

who cares...much ado about nothing..do your own thang

**MacEntyre** · 10-13-2011, 12:10

I apologize, Sam. If I have expressed myself inappropriately, feel free to delete this thread or move it to Donating Members, as you see fit.

It's just disappointing to me that all of the research that we offer to the general public through HF, for anyone to use for personal or commercial purposes, would be ignored out of hand (Insultex) or dismissed as dogma (tree huggers and load calcs) by anyone with a reputation for credibility and innovation.

There are hundreds of threads and thousands of posts about hammock suspensions on HF.

Everything about the design of MMG Insultex UQs has been discussed in detail on HF, whether it deals with compression, darts, loft, InsulTubes, fit, fiddle-factor or suspension. There is even a thread about cloning them, with an atta-boy from me!

It's not about Tinny personally (he's a cute old guy, and I love his derby). It's about his affront to Hammock Forums by dismissing what has gone before.

/rant off/

/sincere apology still on/

/Ewker ignore still on/

- MacEntyre

P.S. I love Shug's comment from the Abandon Treestraps thread - "It is just video fodder for sure. Tinny likes to be a strong brew I reckon."