Whoopie sling in channel end style hammock

[Downhill Trucker]

I was wondering if anyone has used a Whoopie sling where the adjustable loop is actually the only cord through the channel. Seems like if I do it like that I can eliminate some cordage.

[pgibson]

Generally not the adjustable loop but the fixed loop is the normal way of doing it for most channel gathered end hammocks.

[BlueSkies]

Indeed. I run my whoopies through the channel on my ENO. But as paul mentioned the fixed end. the adjustable end goes out the the straps.

[Downhill Trucker]

I would like to integrate the adjustable loop into the channel though. If it would work (still adjusts easily, will not fray the channel). That way I could integrate the fixed loop into my tree strap system. I also think the bigger loop in the channel may make the hammock more comfortable.

[Bubba]

One potential issue would be adjusting the whoopie sling if you have a fair distance between your trees. The farther apart the trees, the higher up they need to attach to the trees and if you are on the shorter side like me, it could be harder to access the bury to adjust the sling. Other than that, I say give it a try and let us know how it goes.

[HomeMadeHiker]

curious how that option would work...
but I have my adjustable end ran through on end loop on my straps and it works nicely.

[DaleW]

I would like to integrate the adjustable loop into the channel though. If it would work (still adjusts easily, will not fray the channel). That way I could integrate the fixed loop into my tree strap system. I also think the bigger loop in the channel may make the hammock more comfortable.

Sounds like it would create a lot more wear on the end channel fabric, which is a very bad thing. As others said, the conventional way to do it is to use the fixed end through the channel in a lark's head. I was suspect enough of end channel damage that I went through the channel twice on a Grand Trunk UL to give more surface area.

The other issue is having a good straight pull on the whoopie sling. You are depending on the compression of the sliding portion of the adjustable end and IMHO, nothing should interfere with that sliding portion. I've ran into setups where I wanted to use a Prusik hitch that landed on the sleeve portion of the sling and I didn't go there. My fear in using in the channel is that it may load to one side and I would avoid that.

What you could do is to use a large carabiner in the channel in the same way that the Nano 7 hammock does, but I think that just adds weight and cost.

[nothermark]

I think you will have a different problem. With the large end run through the channel the cloth will tend to saw back and forth on the loop. Not fast but over time it will cut into the cloth fibers until failure occurs. If you are lucky it will happen on the edges first. If not then the middle will split out. I think you will not have that much of a weight penalty to larks head a loop so it is tight in the channel then tie into it with the whoopie.

[Downhill Trucker]

Assuming I tie the fixed end to the hammock, would it be better to larks head the fixed loop through the channel...

Or maybe creating a small loop at the channel and attaching the fixed end of Whoopie to that loop with a larks head? I used a small loop at the channel of my ring buckle set up. My theory is that the less compressed the channel is, the more comfort in the hammock. Not sure if that makes sense!

Another advantage to that is I could attach the channel loop directly to the hugger if my trees aren't very far apart.

Again, thanks for the help. This is going to be for my fourth DIY that I'm trying to get quite light.

[Bubba]

I use a small continuous loop through the end channel and then larksheaded. That is then connected to the fixed eye of the whoopie sling with a Dutch biner. As you said, you can attach the continuous loop to the webbing if you have a shorter distance between the trees.