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    Quite impressive project! Thank you for the detailed walk through - that is one fine piece of gear.
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    Instructional brilliance! You are the PROFESSOR!
    I pronounce karo 'care oh'...whereas you pronounce karo 'Cairo'...why is that?
    What is the can on the corner of the table by the thread injector? Looks like tomato soup.
    That Speer 900 fill looks very familiar? am I known to that stash?
    Just thought of a partial pressure breathing device for distributing down...thoughts?
    And no I won't ask for a PayPal button--things this immaculate, this spectacular are deserving only to those with the grey matter to create them!
    Down air mat too! Did you test with your body weight?
    Absolutely beautiful genius Grizz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD777 View Post
    Nicely done video! I just finished my 1st karo quilt this summer also. I did not find it any easier than the several conventional quilts that I have made. In fact, I prefer the conventional method.
    I agree. Overall, I think the conventional approach is the easier one. Remains to see if the greater ability to move down around inside when hanging it is a boon.


    Quote Originally Posted by MAD777 View Post
    I have two questions about the results of using cuben for the underquilt, which can be answered only after using it a few nights.
    1. Is condensation a problem
    2. Does the quilt make excessive noise when you turn (I toss & turn a lot).
    For #1, see my answer to WV. Experience with another quilt suggests not, at least not for me. For #2, no. I've been out with this quilt a couple of nights recently in the yard, no noise.

    Quote Originally Posted by MAD777 View Post
    One thing that impressed/scared me was to see how you were not at all gentle with the quilt and the fact that you used a single fold a cuben for shockcord channels. You're a brave man!
    The stuff is very tough, except in the vicinity of pointy sharp objects. The bonds are as strong as the fabric, knowledge revealed by testing done by WV and others. My other quilt with a cuben layer uses the same single fold channel, and looks OK after a couple of years of use, not terribly hard use, sad to say. But yes, abrasion that might tear the channel is on the "watch-for" list.


    Quote Originally Posted by dragon360 View Post
    Quite impressive project! Thank you for the detailed walk through - that is one fine piece of gear.
    Thanks, I'm liking it. Glad you appreciate my compulsive need to explain all kinds of obvious details.

    Quote Originally Posted by MedicineMan View Post
    I pronounce karo 'care oh'...whereas you pronounce karo 'Cairo'...why is that?
    Brain fart. I almost always say 'care oh' too. All kinds of crap come out of my brain and mouth when I get in front of a camera.

    Quote Originally Posted by MedicineMan View Post
    What is the can on the corner of the table by the thread injector? Looks like tomato soup.
    Yep, I have a few big cans of soup I use to weight down the ends of fabric when I'm stretching them out on the floor. Here that can and its brother were holding the quilt up at the table level.

    Quote Originally Posted by MedicineMan View Post
    That Speer 900 fill looks very familiar? am I known to that stash?
    I do believe a certain peapod over-stuffing project was fueled by that stash!

    Quote Originally Posted by MedicineMan View Post
    Down air mat too! Did you test with your body weight?
    oh no, not a down air mat like that. If I laid on it all the air would go swooshing out the ends. But it is like a self-inflating air mattress, the point of my reference, except it has no valves.

    thanks for the interest everyone
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    Another great video Professor. That's a dandy UQ and a nice fit on the Grizz Bridge.

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    No I was just wondering if you could...picture webbing and snap buckles...roll topping the ends a couple of rolls trapping the air in and webbing snap buckles to the sides to hold the air in mattress style.....so the real question is this, are the cuben taped bonds strong enough to support your weight....I'd bet yes since there are so many of them will that huge number of baffles....not that we'd ever want to lay on it on the ground or a shelter-just thinking out loud with my typical results.
    On crinkles--I think its like tyvek, the more its used the less crinkling.

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    That was quite a project and a video!
    Just out of curiosity, how much loft did your hard wood floors have when you finished?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeBait View Post
    Another great video Professor. That's a dandy UQ and a nice fit on the Grizz Bridge.
    and camo coordinated, for the fashionable hammocking set Thanks for watching.

    Quote Originally Posted by MedicineMan View Post
    No I was just wondering if you could...picture webbing and snap buckles...roll topping the ends a couple of rolls trapping the air in and webbing snap buckles to the sides to hold the air in mattress style.....so the real question is this, are the cuben taped bonds strong enough to support your weight....I'd bet yes since there are so many of them will that huge number of baffles....not that we'd ever want to lay on it on the ground or a shelter-just thinking out loud with my typical results.
    That's interesting, like the seal on a dry-bag. That might be made to work. The cuben bonds are up to it I think. I'd be afraid of puncturing it through. Any sharp thing on the ground....pop!

    Quote Originally Posted by wisenber View Post
    That was quite a project and a video!
    Just out of curiosity, how much loft did your hard wood floors have when you finished?
    Ha! Less than you'd think, a few grams escaped, less than 3 grams, judging from the volume (and way too much experience moving down 2-3 grams at a time from one of the Speers bags into a quilt's baffle).
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    Thats a whole lotta tapein Griz. Looks good though.

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    '2-3 grams at a time' should i feel guilt at that? I hope not!

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    Been planning CF UQ myself and this will help. I have a roll of that 1/3 ounce per yard CF to use up. I will probably choose traditional baffles though. Thanks for showing us the way.
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