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    Herder of Cats OutandBack's Avatar
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    Sewing canvas???

    The last time I used the wife's thread injector to make tree huggers I messed it up pretty good.

    Can 18oz canvas be sewn on a standard type of TI?
    If so, any tricks for setting up the machine for heavy material?

    Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.

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    I don't know much about it...so the experts will have more to add here, but you probably do need a heavier needle than the standard. Like one for denim.

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    Whoa. 18oz???

    Is this wife one you want to keep?
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    What are you making from 18oz canvas? A hammock you can drag behind your truck!
    j/k.

    Among the limitations of a regular TI is the fact that if you're sewing that gauge of fabric you're going to want a similarly substantial thread. Most home machines do not care for the larger diameter threads. So the machine may not balk at the fabric as much as it would appropriate thread.
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    The critical issue is what are making. A modern machine is likely not going to cut it on any more than 2 layers _unless_ it is a very high end machine with an extra power transmission and motor. _If_ you are only doing a short set of seams you could hand crank the flywheel and avoid burning out the motor or stripping the transmission but it is a slow, time consuming wrist wrenching project.

    18 0z fabric is pretty heavy. If you are using real canvas (cotton) then you will have an easier time than if you are using nylon canvas weight. You will need a denim needle _but_ you will want it to be sharp, sharp, sharp. Nylon will dull the needle pretty quick. Cotton canvas would be less likely to do so.

    If you messed up your wife's machine making tree huggers I would suggest you get used to hand stitching that stuff. Get yourself some heavy duty upholstery needles and a sailor's palm. A simple thimble is not going to cut it for that.
    I may be slow... But I sure am gimpy.

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    Another consideration: if your project involves a large amount of canvas, the sheer bulk of the material may be more than a home machine's harp can accommodate.
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    Maybe you don't need to use 18oz canvas,,,what are you up to??/
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    Thanks to all for your sound advice.
    I don't want to risk my marriage so hand stitching sounds like a good way to go.

    I'm making a fire resistant tarp vestibule for my syl-nylon winter hammock tarp.
    The plan is to use a small hot tent stove when winter pulk camping.
    When I winter snow camping in Colorado I typically only hike/pulk in a mile or two and setup a base camp.
    Then do day hike from that base.

    The material is 12oz cotton canvas. http://www.mytarp.com/canvas-tarps-flame-retardant.aspx
    Flame Retardant Canvas Tarps
    Made in USA
    Flame Retardant
    Color: Olive Drab. Flame Retardant.
    Fabric: 100% Heavy Duty Cotton Canvas. 18 oz per sq. yard. 12 oz before water resistant and flame retardant treatment.
    Fully treated. Resist water, mildew and rot.


    Imagine this hot tent vestabule:



    Re-sized and attached to one end of this hammock tarp.



    The only sewing I need to do is covering the scissor cut edges with grosgain(sp?) and a seam at the top along the ridgeline attaching the two pieces.
    I have a grommet tool kit for tent stakes and lashing to the tarps ridgeline.

    Comments, Suggestions, Ideas, Welcome...

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    Cool idea man.

    Be very careful with heat close to synthetic suspension.

    My advice on the sewing would be to do it by hand also.

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