To prove this is a great idea, here's my fortune cookie from my Chinese chicken wing supper...
To prove this is a great idea, here's my fortune cookie from my Chinese chicken wing supper...
Its GOTTA work!!!Originally Posted by twdant
There's your problem right there...according to your OP, it was a Wednesday idea.
When you say hardware free I assume that means no hardware for attaching the tree straps to the tree as well i.e. you intend to feed the webbing through its loop. That would be the reason you want to have the ability to attach and reattach the amsteel to the webbing is that correct?
A couple of things to consider IMO. Knots derate the strength of amsteel and even though people are using knots for nacrabiners, the introduction of several knots in a row increases the odds of failure. I could be wrong but intuitively it makes sense. Attaching the amsteel to the webbing loop makes it more difficult to adjust for short distances. With options like the MSH, Dutch buckles, Bloomgorge Elephant Trunks or triglides, you can shorten the webbing right up to the tree if necessary. Not a huge deal but it can be somewhat limiting.
I really like your concept and look forward to your test results.
Last edited by Bubba; 03-02-2012 at 22:57.
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hmmm. I think simple is better. the less knots the less failure ratio. glad the idea was posted after 5 pages!
Each knot is itself a "weak link," which is kind of a relative term considering we're dealing with a tensile strength of 2500 pounds. So while more knots may increase the odds of a break, I don't think more than one knot will decrease the strength any more than a single knot would. The reason for it being able to detach is so I can use it with tree straps as described. There are two adjustment options: coarse and fine. Fine adjustment (inches) is easy, just adjust the whoopie part of the suspension. Coarse adjustment (feet) can be achieved by wrapping the tree straps additional times around the tree.
For what it is worth, I'm inclined to think this will work.
For what it is worth, I'm also inclined to think this would work with just one diamond knot passed through the hugger loop and back into the two strands. They are going to clamp down on the far side of the knot, creating a jam.
To be really sure you could (and I would) create a "hole" for the diamond knot 2-3 inches from the knot by passing one cord through the other, and then back again about an inch later. Have to do this before making the knot, of course.
Myself, I put a loop with a diamand knot through a loop in the hugger. The diamond knot gives an attachment point for the fixed end of a UCR or whoopie sling that has a soft shakle-like opening for the knot. There's a picture in this post.
Thanks for sharing your idea.
Grizz
(alias ProfessorHammock on youtube)
Well, the knot system worked great, but the constrictor knot, even though it was 15" long, slipped every time. I suppose it's because the entire weight of that end of the hammock was being supported by that constrictor instead of just half like in a whoopie sling.
Constrictors benefit from having tension on both ends. I'm not sure how yours is set up, but this may help...http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=48061
Looking good so far!
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