Pushing the Cuben Envelope - valve needed

[WV]

Plus if it does work, overpressure would cause the insulation to fart. I can think of a couple of names for the finished product as well.

I think having an insulated hammock that farts feathers might deflate my ego some. So would hearing your proposed product names, so keep 'em to yourself.

[Violent Green]

I get my air mattress valves from where KenDen posted. I made 2-3 air mattresses from heat sealable nylon and these were more user friendly than Thermarest style valves.

Cheap, easy, and light. They come with an adhesive that will stick to cuben well, but I still use Seamgrip. Works like a champ.

http://www.airtimekite.com/index.php...te-valves.html

Did I read it right that your going to attempt an air mattress from cuben?

Ryan

[FireInMyBones]

I was just thinking of a "NeoAir" style cuben mattress the other day. I have no funds for one yet, but I've been working on the math. I'll be following this thread with interest.

[WV]

Did I read it right that your going to attempt an air mattress from cuben?

Ryan

Ryan,
Something along those lines. I make insulated hammocks, and I'll probably make one with down and cuben pretty soon. When the insulating layer is hanging below the hammock there isn't the same pressure on the structure as there is with an air matress supporting the sleeper, but I'd like to be able to speed up inflation and deflation, so some sort of valve and pump/bag will be necessary. Also, I'd like to inflate some tubes enough to provide a bit of rigidity to the structure so spreader bars and side tieouts could be minimized or entirely eliminated. Stay tuned.

[Cranky Bear]

Ryan,
Something along those lines. I make insulated hammocks, and I'll probably make one with down and cuben pretty soon. When the insulating layer is hanging below the hammock there isn't the same pressure on the structure as there is with an air matress supporting the sleeper, but I'd like to be able to speed up inflation and deflation, so some sort of valve and pump/bag will be necessary. Also, I'd like to inflate some tubes enough to provide a bit of rigidity to the structure so spreader bars and side tieouts could be minimized or entirely eliminated. Stay tuned.

WV,

I remember reading (and seeing a video) on someone here on HF built an all cuben hammock with attached underquilt, but at the moment I can't seem to locate the thread as his method for filling the quilt with air to loft would/might work for you!

I will keep looking for that thread and post it here!

[Cranky Bear]

Found it!

http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...=cuben+hammock

[WV]

Thanks CB. I just re-read that thread; it's great info and motivational material. Waiting for Shug's video to download in HD so I can look at that inflation system again. My cuben ziploc may be a prototype for an attached inflation bag that can be turned inside out to store the hammock. That's a long way off, however.

Thanks again to Strung Out for his shining example!

[FLRider]

If you're talking about tarp spreaders, have you seen Bill Fornshell's balloon bed concept over on Backpacking Light?

I'd think that if the balloons could take the weight of an occupant like that as a sleeping pad, they'd probably work for spreader bars. They'd be a lot cheaper than cuben, and I can't see the weight savings of cuben being a lot with that size material.

Just a thought

[lubbockhammockguy]

One of shug's video's that also have fronkey in it had a cuben hammock with built in down and it has a little system for venting the down that was just a tube that he could tie off

[Cranky Bear]

WV,

Here is a link to Enlightened Equip's page with pics showing the inflation tube!

http://www.enlightenedequipment.com/epiphany.html