Pads are underrated. I use UQ's for the summer and cooler weather, but for some serious cold, I use pads. Combine the egg crate, the sunshade and the other blue wally world pad, with a poncho as a weathershield and I have gone to -22*F. yep that's a negative. As I said, pads are underrated. Some hammocks they tend to not stay under you, that's the only real drawback... not their insulative properties.