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Did not add ButtInASling as they had no weight listed for their double layer.
--Kurt
Don't see a way to paste an HTML table into a post, so did as link:
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Did not add ButtInASling as they had no weight listed for their double layer.
--Kurt
My 1.1 oz. Buttinasling double-layer 11 ft. hammock weighs 12 oz., according to Brian from Buttinasling. This is without suspension - just hammock and continuous loops though the channels.
I would guess that my tree huggers, whoopies and Whoopie hooks add no more than 4.5 oz. Dutch lists his All-in-One Woopie Hook suspension at 104 grams (3.7 oz), and my suspension is a knockoff of that suspension, just with longer tree huggers.
I'd bet if you asked Brandon, Warbonnet would make an 11'-er for you...
"Do or do not, there is no try." -- Yoda
You can also go lighter by decreasing the width - I chose 60" for my Buttinasling but I don't think it needs to be that wide.Originally Posted by SilvrSurfr
Maybe a little thread drift here...
+1 on the length being more important than the width.
+1 on the UQ as opposed to the double layer. By the time you add the pad weight & the extra layer, you're at about the weight of the single layer & UQ.
If weight is your only consideration, then don't even consider the DL. However, if you want the flexibility of a pad, and can't afford an UQ right now, then a DL provides that.
I chose a DL specifically because I want that flexibility, even though I have a 20* degree UQ with 2 oz. of overstuff that can theoretically get me to 10* F. I just can't see using that UQ in summer, and I'm not about to buy another UQ for summer at this time.
I used a pad in a single layer and it sucks getting it situated underneath you, whereas a pad in a double layer is infinitely better. And you can also add other insulation to a DL (space blanket, fleece, etc.) that can give you more flexibility.
In your situation, a lightweight DL with 1.1 oz fabric makes sense. When you are ready to buy the UQ, sell the DL, the HH, or the WBBB to partially finance it.
There's pack weight and there's pack size. I don't see how a pad can pack anywhere as small as a down UQ even if the weight was close. Maybe a double layer hammock and an inflatable pad would come close in size but it'd be heavier.
"A bore is a man who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company." Gian Vincenzo Gravina (1664 - 1718)
There have been several posts that have concluded that a single layer + UQ is much smaller and lighter than a double + pad.
I weigh 235lbs, so if I go to a single layer I have to move up to a 1.7 oz fabric. The WB Traveler for instance is only 3 oz heavier with a 1.1 double than a 1.7 single.
I don't need the full warmth of an UQ most times, and I don't want to buy several of them. The Multimat I use is 0.1lbs lighter than a JRB MW 3 UQ.
Bottom line: 1.1 double + pad is neglibly heavier than 1.7 single + UQ for me. Yes, a pad is a little bit bulkier, but here in AZ I have to carry 4-6 liters of water in my pack which takes up little space. I am currently using a 40L pack and have room leftover even with my Multimat.
As always, best to look at specifics rather than generalizations.
--Kurt
Our double layer comes in all flavors. Each one has a different weight.
Our Weight Weenie with a double layer and knotty mod is photographed here. About 17 ounces.
DL Knotty WW.jpg
SilvrSurfr's hammock is an extra wide DL WW Micro and is about 12 ounces.
We're working to detail the specs more thoroughly as we've not gotten final weights in on all our hammocks with each and every mod.
Hope this helps. Will be glad to get weights on specifics.
Is that one mine?
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