Any comments on JRB Nest for HH... please

[elcolombianito]

So my vacations are nearly over and have not been able to make up my mind on which road to take: supershelter or jrb nest. At first i was drawn towards the SS. But after a while of reading threads, and some dyi uq experiments with and old sleeping bag, im strongly considering the nest.

I assume the nest gives more heat coverage? than the ss. I like to move alot inside the hh and sleep in irregular positions, and I believe the nest would be more appropiate in this sense.

the compacted size of the nest is very appealing, also since it has other uses(quilt, vest), but i was wondering if compressing it everytime its packed(as well as by mistake sometimes compressing it too tight) doesnt affect its effectivenes after some time. By the way, would it fit in snakeskins?

Im also not clear on how the foot end velcro slit of the nest works (or the ss's entry slit for that matter). At JRB site, it says it "attaches to the Hennessy’s entrance hook and loop"... which h and l? In some thread here i read it velcroed(not the actual word used on the post, but can't find the thread) to the hh's entry slit velcro. I hope someone can post some images on how this part of the system works. Most places i hang have many little bugs that refuge under the tarp and on the hammock and in it if i let any openings on the slit, so how would this be affected?

Other than these questions, my only other concerns are price (comp to ss with overcover and space blanket) and color. Haven't seen or read anyone who uses it with the black side out though someone has recommended it.

[Ramblinrev]

Omni tape adheres to both sides of traditional velcro as well as to itself. Many products are using omni tape now.

[FanaticFringer]

So my vacations are nearly over and have not been able to make up my mind on which road to take: supershelter or jrb nest. At first i was drawn towards the SS. But after a while of reading threads, and some dyi uq experiments with and old sleeping bag, im strongly considering the nest.

I assume the nest gives more heat coverage? than the ss. I like to move alot inside the hh and sleep in irregular positions, and I believe the nest would be more appropiate in this sense.

the compacted size of the nest is very appealing, also since it has other uses(quilt, vest), but i was wondering if compressing it everytime its packed(as well as by mistake sometimes compressing it too tight) doesnt affect its effectivenes after some time. By the way, would it fit in snakeskins?

Im also not clear on how the foot end velcro slit of the nest works (or the ss's entry slit for that matter). At JRB site, it says it "attaches to the Hennessy’s entrance hook and loop"... which h and l? In some thread here i read it velcroed(not the actual word used on the post, but can't find the thread) to the hh's entry slit velcro. I hope someone can post some images on how this part of the system works. Most places i hang have many little bugs that refuge under the tarp and on the hammock and in it if i let any openings on the slit, so how would this be affected?

Other than these questions, my only other concerns are price (comp to ss with overcover and space blanket) and color. Haven't seen or read anyone who uses it with the black side out though someone has recommended it.

I vote for the Nest. BillyBob58 has used the SS with success. Do a search as he has posted plenty of info. on it. I'm sure he'll chime in soon.
I would not worry about compressing the Nest. Never had a problem doing it. That being said, I have tried to compress the Nest and hammock together in the snakeskins and did not like compressing it that much. Most dont do it that way although a few do. Others have tried things such as a BlackBishop bag with success.

I suggest trying to enclose the Nest onto the hammock as well as just pushing the underquilt to the side when entering/exiting the hammock. Experiment with both. Back when I used a Hennessy, I pushed it aside and it worked great. I did'nt want to fool with attaching it to the hammock.

It works fine black side out.

http://www.jacksrbetter.com/index_fi...g%20Tricks.htm

[Take-a-knee]

I vote for the Nest. BillyBob58 has used the SS with success. Do a search as he has posted plenty of info. on it. I'm sure he'll chime in soon.
I would not worry about compressing the Nest. Never had a problem doing it. That being said, I have tried to compress the Nest and hammock together in the snakeskins and did not like compressing it that much. Most dont do it that way although a few do. Others have tried things such as a BlackBishop bag with success.

I suggest trying to enclose the Nest onto the hammock as well as just pushing the underquilt to the side when entering/exiting the hammock. Experiment with both. Back when I used a Hennessy, I pushed it aside and it worked great. I did'nt want to fool with attaching it to the hammock.

It works fine black side out.

http://www.jacksrbetter.com/index_fi...g%20Tricks.htm

I've had better luck attaching the Nest to the hammock slit and leaving it there. Rig up a "Blackbishop Sack" like this:http://www.tothewoods.net/HomemadeGe...ishopSack.html That way, once you get it adjusted, it stays that way.

The Nest is the only underquilt I didn't get a cold spot under my butt occasionally( I also have a KAQ), and with the Nest, if you do, you can fiddle with the velcro from inside the hammock and usually fix it without having to leave your warm coccoon. The Jacks have a winner with the NEST/NO SNIVELER. I highly reccomend them.

If you turn the black side out, the Omnitape will be inverted, I've thought about sewing another layer of omnitape on the other side.

[cgul1]

I vote nest, but then have not used the SS

Just spent a week in HH with nest, worked great

[DougTheElder]

This is a good chance for you to do it right the first time. I have both (SS and No Sniveller). Bought the SS first. Its good for some things, but not as good for as many situations as the JRB stuff.

[Perkolady]

I have no experience with the ss, but I highly recommend the Nest !!

Wonderful underquilt !

Perkolady

[elcolombianito]

Before doing research on the Nest i had done an equally, probably larger, dig into the SS. Hennessy has not let me down with any of its products i own, and I don't think the SS would be an exception. But the nest does appear to have many advantages over the SS and maybe worth those extra bucks.

i thank you all for the input.

[Ashman]

I got the Sniveler and was pleased with it. I didn't try to put it in the skins with the hammock, I stored in in the stuff sack they come with. It took my a little fiddleing to get things like I wanted but once I got that down, It is really easy to set up. Doug the Elder's comments are spot on. You pay more for this system but I don't read too many people who go this route and come back saying they regret it. The ability to use the Sniveler as a camp cover is nice too. They guys I went with mocked me a bit till the temps dropped and they were wrapping up in their pack covers! Its a nice way of having something extra for camp without having to pack more gear.

[Amy]

I've used the Nest twice times, once in November near Gettysburg, and last night in the Poconos. In November, I was much warmer than my tenting friends.

Last night, I was car camping with friends, and took the opportunity to test my new Jacks R Better Weathershield 2. I was also using a Maccat and a HH. We had crazy thunderstorms and rain for much of the night. The low was around 63. The weathershield got wet, and protected the Nest. I had a cold spot on my back at one point until I realized I was scrunched towards the bottom end of the HH, and once I stretched out to be more in the middle, the cold spot went away. (i.e., the way I was lying had probably compressed the nest in the middle.) The nest felt very slightly damp in the morning, but it was cold and humid, so that wasn't surprising - almost everything was slightly damp. I am very happy with my Nest.

---Amy