I think everyone should do their own testing and decide for yourself if it is safe or not.
I think most comments are from folks concerned that there isn't any formal quality testing; this being the reason they choose not to use them vs. actually experiencing failures.
I'd like to hear if anyone had an end cap actually crack or break and the situation that caused it.
Here's my set-up that has worked well so far:
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It is multiple issues. There is the issue of it being an untested part being used that isn't built using the strongest method (I think it is cast) but it is also because if you use it for your hammock then you are attaching a fair bit away from the ridge pole attachment point so you will probably introduce a bit more bowing in the ridgepole.
If you are ok with those two issues and it doesn't pose a problem then do whatever floats your boat. If you do though... please be careful and be ready for potential gear failure.
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I was early to advocate the use of the end caps to hang from, and indeed have I think 6 in the field now and my first and daily use stand uses them and that's been for quite some time now.
But I have to agree the end caps are cheaply made and not designed to take the stresses applied and other and future stands I build won't be using them to hang anyone's body weight from.
Clearly I'm not going to change out my original stand, but as always, hang no higher than you're willing to fall! (especially over concrete...)
fyi, none of my hangers are over 200#... hyoh.
i guess i'll avoid the end caps for now. no biggie, since i wanted the sharp edges covered anyways, and like others have mentioned, they can be used to fasten a tarp.
i've seen some pretty complicated connections between the hinge, pole, and then hammock. any issues the way i have it? i don't think the vertical rope is really going to budge, and even if it does, its not something that would lead to failure. even if i use a hammock with whoopie slings, i'd probably start by just hanging the big end over the outside of the pole, and having it pull up against the rope in the same fashion i have it now.
I suggest you leave out the biner and just feed the webbing through it's own end loop for a better choke on the ridgepole. I had it move the pole hanging loop about 6" overnight once, but is was with a bridge hammock and a flatter hang angle (greater forces). I usually use a 3" long piece of bicycle inner tube and put the end of the webbing through it to get a better grip on the ridgepole just for my own peace of mind.
i had this suspicion while typing my previous response, but had to try it out just to be sure, but whoopie slings are definitely too long if you only have a 10'5" pole and 6'6" stands.
is there any easy way to adapt a WS suspension on to these without rearranging a bunch of stuff?