My son and I on our first hang outside for his crossover to boyscouts! We had a great time. We ended up hanging both asym stock tarps over us so we could stay on the same 2 trees. I think we need a bigger tarp! lol. Some spreader bars would be helpful too! All in all we had a great time, stayed toasty warm. Thanks to TATO for the Poncho liner! Once we tweek a few things I think set up will go a lot easier and quicker too. For some reason I tried dutch buckles on my son's HH and it kept slipping, worked fine at home though so not sure what the problem was.