Suggestions for hot humid weather UQ and TQ?

[Black Wolf]

For what's it's worth .. I use a Thermoflect UQ .. weighs in at 4.6 ozs. ... and for a TQ a Sea to Summit Thremolite Reactor 9.5ozs. .. pushed to 60*F wearing only shorts and a shirt .. IX and poncho liners don't pack down small enough for my liking .. HYOH
Peace is Sexy...

[engine386]

hmm... from what I see, it looks like the thermoflect is only available in large quantities

[QiWiz]

So on the Zaleski BP trail trip, we had high temps of 84 degrees for Saturday's 12.7 miles (TH to Camp H, for any who know Zaleski). At midnight it was still in low 70's, and low temp for the night, at about 5 AM, was 65.6 degrees. As far as my hammock comfort, I never used the poncho liner at all, and as temps fell below 70, eventually did use the single IX layer 3/4 UQ and single IX layer full length TQ. Initially had the UQ off to one side and no TQ. Was wearing only tyvek pants (made from a thin tyvek hazmat suit, 2.8 oz), Ex Officio boxers, hiking socks, and an UL Merino LS top (5.1 oz), no hat. Not chilly at all. Did not find condensation or moisture under the IX TQ to be a problem either, which some folks have mentioned.

So more testing will be needed to see what I'll need or not for temps in lower 60's and high 50's. I have been able to barter a collection of the gear I make for a HG 50 deg Burrow TQ, so I will probably sell off the poncho liners as they weigh about the same. The IX gives me the flexibility of using 1 or 2 layers as UQ, and in really warm conditions single layer UQ and TQ as I did at Zaleski.

[QiWiz]

. . . more testing will be needed to see what I'll need or not for temps in lower 60's and high 50's. I have been able to barter a collection of the gear I make for a HG 50 deg Burrow TQ, so I will probably sell off the poncho liners as they weigh about the same. The IX gives me the flexibility of using 1 or 2 layers as UQ, and in really warm conditions single layer UQ and TQ as I did at Zaleski.

Just thought I would do a follow-up report on my recent experiments on another trip, this time on an AT section in VA called the "triple crown" (see trip reports for more info). Had temps eventually going down into low 60's on Friday night 8/10 and down to 57 degrees on Saturday night 8/11 - perfect to see what I needed for comfortable sleep. I had the two IX layers and the 50 deg Burrow with me. On Friday I started with the 3/4 single IX layer as UQ and the full length IX layer as TQ. Towards morning I got chilly enough to take out the Burrow and use as TQ; I was a little cooler than ideal underneath, but not bad, wearing a thin merino top and boxers. On Saturday, I could tell when I hit the sack that it was going to be colder, so I set up with both IX layers as UQ, the full-length below the 3/4 length, and had the Burrow as TQ. Added Dri Ducks pants to what I slept in and a fleece hat and was very comfortable.

So my conclusions are . . .

IX is worth trying for summer/warm weather insulation, even as a single layer. My personal experience is that:

Down to about 65 degrees as a low temp, I can be comfortable with single layer IX UQ and TQ hammock insulation.

From 55 to 65 degrees, I can be comfortable with two layer IX insulation as UQ. I would bring a light down TQ to go with it.

Probably below 55 degrees, and certainly below 50 degrees, I will go with a down UQ and TQ.

To a certain extent, I could extend these temp ranges by wearing warmer sleeping clothes, but I would need to factor in the weight penalty of bringing extra sleeping clothes.

[Moondoggy]

Look at the Arrowhead equipment website! They have some good options unless you are a DIG man!

[deeder]

have to agree with the poncho liner. been my go to bag for more than 10 years. modded mine a while back with a zipper/draw cord.