Not to speak for CR, but part of what I like about whoopies being built into chainlinks is that you can "bypass" the whoopie altogether and loop the chainlink directly to the MSH.Originally Posted by Bubba
This makes your "shortest possible hang" the length of your hammock + a couple inches for your chainlinks compared to the length of your hammock + 2 feet or so for your whoopies.
I am still working stuff out on the Whoopies. So far I they are working out. The distance between the posts in the building is around 12 1/2 feet. I think the longer whoopies will shine when the trees are big. I should still be able to have the weight on the tree straps and use the whoopies to make up the distance. I am still deciding on whether to use slightly longer tree straps and shorter whoopies or just shorter whoopies. The tails were pretty long on this distance. I should have looped them up out of the way. The whoopies are will not go short enough for the BIAS hammock, so I am planning to make a different set for it.
Happy Camper, hope we can meet at one of the hangs this year.
Great video, CR! And thanks to Bear Chaser, my 25 oz. 1.1 single layer Blackbird with webbing is down to 17.7 oz with whoopies. Yours is at 16 oz and I think Bear Chaser's is under a pound.
I think he said he had it around 14 or so ounces! His set up is real nice. He was using a teeny tarp at the Sods hang, but it looked like everything was dry.
Hey, thanks much for the nice link! It does look way better.
Koffar: The weight saving was only about 1/4 ounce, but it did add to the total.
Thanks everyone for the feedback. After getting a year of experience under my belt, it is nice to be able to contribute some useful information and give back to everyone here.
I just meant a shorter continuous loop could be used and the bury of the fixed loop could be shorter. That way there would be a pretty short minimum length when using the whoopies and even shorter minimum length when the chainlinks are used as you described above.
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This is great Country Roads, appreciate you posting it, thanks for the mention also. I have mine down between 13 & 14 oz. at the moment, I believe I can go slightly lower now after seeing your video.
My setup now - BB 1.1 Single with Dynaglide Chain links of about 8" give or take for suspension connection to Whoopie Hooks, Dynaglide whoopies also. I'm using the 1.75mm Lash-it for a ridge line and shortened pieces of ZPack's 80lb utility cord for the wing tie outs. I use something very similar to quilt hooks threaded onto the utility cord, it gets hooked onto some 1/16 shock cord with a tiny cord lock then staked out.
We talked about the zipper pulls at DS. After discussing it with Happy Camper we had a concern of the string loop slipping out of the zipper head. Has this been a problem or happened at all. I was thinking I could just crimp the little latch down against the zipper head so this would not happen.
What I plan on modifying - Zipper pulls and my shock cord tie out system making it similar to your setup. Right now I have a long piece of the 1/16 shock cord setup very similar to the stock setup, but. That shock cord is .048 oz / yard, 80lb utility cord is .021 oz / yard. If I use a short hank of the shock cord tied directly to the utility cord and reverse my quilt hooks like you have I could eliminate the tiny cord lock also (0.02 ounces / .57 grams each).
One note about the utility cord, it is Polyester. So it will stretch if it gets wet, which is not a problem when used for the wing tie outs. Plus you just unhook them from the hammock when packing up, keeps wet shock cord and tie outs away from the hammock.
Wow! A 13/14 oz Blackbird! That's a hammock with zipper bugnet, footbox, and large pocket wing. All the comforts I want at a light weight. Add a cuben tarp . . . And I may want to marry it!
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