Prusiks, more or fewer loops?

[toddhunter]

1.Do additional loops make it easier to move up and down the line? I'm finding that my Harbor Frt mason line can be difficult to loosen and slide, esp after getting wet. Anyone have experience with HF mason line?
2. Also, what prusik line works well with the nite-ize guy lines?

[MAD777]

Generally speaking, the more loops you have the better the holding power. Of course that means it's also harder to slide the knot.

Preferably the prussic line diameter should be smaller than the line it is attached to. However, I think the majority of HF users (myself included) use the same diameter for both lines and simply take an extra wrap to make up for it.

[raiffnuke]

Another option for you is to use the Klemheist knot, I find it easier to slide, but holds really well under tension...



or the Distel Hitch...

[SilvrSurfr]

I've been playing with mason line and it gets really stretchy when wet. I don't think I'll be using mason line in my hammock setup because the mason line changes so drastically from dry to wet.

[BrianWillan]

Another option for you is to use the Klemheist knot, I find it easier to slide, but holds really well under tension...



or the Distel Hitch...

Keep in mind that the klemheist friction knot is directional in nature. It will only hold in place with the load placed in one direction. So this has to be accounted for when using them.

The prussic is nice as it is symmetrical and will hold with the load pulling in either direction. If slippage is a problem, use more wraps. Also the prussic cord should be of smaller diameter than the line that it is being wrapped around. That is how all friction knots are designed to work.

Cheers

Brian

[raiffnuke]

Keep in mind that the klemheist friction knot is directional in nature. It will only hold in place with the load placed in one direction. So this has to be accounted for when using them.

The prussic is nice as it is symmetrical and will hold with the load pulling in either direction. If slippage is a problem, use more wraps. Also the prussic cord should be of smaller diameter than the line that it is being wrapped around. That is how all friction knots are designed to work.

Cheers

Brian

Very true. Thanks for pointing that out. I forgot to mention that.

[SmokeBait]

Generally speaking, the more loops you have the better the holding power. Of course that means it's also harder to slide the knot.

Preferably the prussic line diameter should be smaller than the line it is attached to. However, I think the majority of HF users (myself included) use the same diameter for both line and simple take an extra wrap to make up for it.

Very good points MAD777!

Toddhunter, you might try 2 or 3 wraps to see if that works better for you. Can't say I have experience with HF mason line but the mason line I have used did not take many turns to hold.

[MAD777]

I actually use klemheist knots. Same principle, only directional.

[Bannerstone]

When lines are new I typically use 3 wraps but as they get softened up and the shine worn off through use I find 2 wraps is sufficient and a bit easier to reposition. Wet lines tend to sieze up prusiks somewhat but you learn to roll the knot between your thumb and fore finger to release the knot slightly before repositioning.

I've used same material on line & prusik successfully on most every type of line I've tried with good results.

David

[ernesthemmingway]

When lines are new I typically use 3 wraps but as they get softened up and the shine worn off through use I find 2 wraps is sufficient and a bit easier to reposition. Wet lines tend to sieze up prusiks somewhat but you learn to roll the knot between your thumb and fore finger to release the knot slightly before repositioning.

I've used same material on line & prusik successfully on most every type of line I've tried with good results.

David

+1 on that. I usually grab the knot and give it a good shake. That loosens it up.