Quote Originally Posted by stoikurt View Post
Sounds like the ones you found are considerably heavier than the ones most of us use. The Camp Nano is only 28 grams or only about 1 ounce each. Not enough weight penalty for the convenience for most of us.
Black Diamond also makes some light ones that don't require mail order. The Black Diamond Oval Wiregate Carabiner is 45 grams (1.6 oz) and 5.95 at the local outfitter. They're also extremely strong.