ThermoBall is out on the market.

[packdaddy]

Just saw and ad and found some footage on this ThermoBall insulation. Supposed to be equal to 600 fill down. Unfortunately North Face has the exclusive rights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKy2pA8y9IM

[Cranky Bear]

It looks like they picked off lint balls from a sweatshirt and called it something new!!!

All kidding aside, I am interested in this for on the water type outings and or wetter climate trips, if the cost is better (read cheaper) than dri-down.

[desmobob]

I was thinking of trying it and almost ordered a jacket this weekend. But on second thought, I realized another "down" type jacket or vest is the last thing I need. (So I picked up a Marmot Super Gravity soft shell instead!)

It looks pretty neat and if it works as advertised, it will be a nice alternative to down or bulky synthetics.

Take it easy,
desmobob

[BillyBob58]

It looks like they picked off lint balls from a sweatshirt and called it something new!!!

All kidding aside, I am interested in this for on the water type outings and or wetter climate trips, if the cost is better (read cheaper) than dri-down.

Me too, but I am super interested in the treated down. If this lives up to the claims, the question will as always be: will it hold it's loft over the years? Will it stand up to being slept in ( lots of wear on the layer that is under you)? Etc.

I was thinking of trying it and almost ordered a jacket this weekend. But on second thought, I realized another "down" type jacket or vest is the last thing I need. (So I picked up a Marmot Super Gravity soft shell instead!)

It looks pretty neat and if it works as advertised, it will be a nice alternative to down or bulky synthetics.

Take it easy,
desmobob

I think I saw "Primaloft" in the specs? If so, is this the same Primaloft that has been around for years, or some significant new version of PL?

[makomachine]

Haven't seen anything listed that indicates more innovation than less marketing gimmick. Mould be happy to be persuaded otherwise with some real data, which seems pretty nonexistent.

[nothermark]

Primaloft in balls sewed into individual pockets. What will be interesting is the baffle height if there is any. He said baffle but they look sewn through.