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    Ridgeline Antics/ Staying Comfortable

    So I decided to put a structural ridgeline on my ENO double. I am about 6'1 220 and decided for the first night to allow a good bit of sag so I kept the length to 95 inches. I was pretty comfortable at first but when I woke up I was all balled up in the middle of the hammock. I got home that night and extened the ridgeline to about 105 inches which feels more comfortable but when I took a nap it felt like my feet were falling asleep. So is there any guidelines for ridgelines? Meaning if your ridgeline is to short x,y,z will happen, if it is too long x,y,z will hapen.

    Another question for you fine folks.
    How do you keep your pad under you when on a diagonal. Last Christmas, before I got into Hammock camping I got a Marmot Tresles bag rated to 15 and a Thermarest Prolite 4 for my tent camping. April rolls around and I decide to try something different and opted for a hammock. Since then I have been using the Thermarest as my pad with my sleeping bag unzipped except for the foot box as a top quilt. This weekend was the first time I had hammocked in less than 50 degree weather so I had on additional layers and a hat to keep warm. It turns out keeping warm wasnt that hard but the friggin pad kept moving all night. I woke up around 2 am with one side of the pad hanging off the hammock. I got out and repostioned everything on the diagonal but when I got in it all shifted and I had a really difficult time trying to get the pad under me, then everytime I rolled over on my side I would roll off the pad. I really dont want to spend any more funds on a top quilt, underquilt and whatnot so I am looking for some cheap solutions. Yesterday I was hanging around the house and had the thought of why not just put the pad (partially inflated) inside the sleeping bag and then zip the bag up. I went out back and set up the hammock and found it was alot easier to get on the pad and when I turned onto my side the pad stayed with me. Anyone else do this and have comments, good or bad?

    I am also preparing to do the cinch buckle, strapworks mod for my suspension and was curious if any members had any cinch buckles, straps, or spyderline they were looking to get rid of. Also if anyone wants to get rid of thier small figure nines let me know.

    Thanks for the Replies,
    HOPTOAD

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    To chime in quickly, one thing alot of folks do is hang the foot end a little higher than the head end. This can help prevent slipping.
    As far as the pad slippage; I dont use one, but one thing you may want to look into is putting little grippy points on the pad. Get some shoe goo, and on one side of the pad but little dots of it all over. It will kinda work like those gloves with the little dots on the palms.

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    You are asking a good question. It's an issue in tent camping as well of course. Putting the pad inside the bag, as you suggest, seems like a good solution. You are basically turning your bag into a Big Agnes style bag, which is specifically designed to address that issue.

    I think the problem is that the bottom of most sleeping bags are very slick and they tend to slide right off the pad. The solution I use is to use a quilt rather than a bag. Equivalently you can open your bag and lay it over you like a quilt (the requires a full zip bad tho). It's easier to keep my body on a pad than to keep my body in a bag on the pad. Not a perfect solution (an underquilt is probably the best solution) but it works for me.

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    The only good solutions I can see for a pad inside a hammock is attaching it to the back of your sleeping bag or to the inside of your hammock. Those sleeping bag designs with a pad sleeve, for instance. Otherwise a pad is just too difficult to arrange make uncomfortable - I gave up on my pad after the first night in the hammock and am looking into down underquilt ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkrownd View Post
    The only good solutions I can see for a pad inside a hammock is attaching it to the back of your sleeping bag or to the inside of your hammock.
    I don't find that to be true at all. There are 2 good solutions.

    1 - Use a double layer hammock, and place the pad between the fabric layers. It stays in place very nicely, and I've used this method on many occasions.

    2 - Use a Speer SPE. Simple, but effective.
    I think that when the lies are all told and forgot the truth will be there yet. It dont move about from place to place and it dont change from time to time. You cant corrupt it any more than you can salt salt. - Cormac McCarthy

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    I recently went down this path - first night I used my Thermarest and slid all over. Second night I went to WalMart and picked up a blue pad. This works much better. It's wider, and I find I can position it and it doesn't slide around as much as the Thermarest. Next is going to be to add some wings somehow - either via a DIY SPE or something...

    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    I don't find that to be true at all. There are 2 good solutions.

    1 - Use a double layer hammock, and place the pad between the fabric layers. It stays in place very nicely, and I've used this method on many occasions.

    2 - Use a Speer SPE. Simple, but effective.
    #1 is what I meant by attaching the pad to the hammock, but I'd rather just use an underquilt if I'm going to put something like that together. #2 is extra stuff to carry, and IMO I'm glad to be free of pads in any shape or form. But, if you like the pad for some reason, there ya go.

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    > There are 2 good solutions.

    > 1 - Use a double layer hammock, and place the pad between the
    > fabric layers. It stays in place very nicely, and I've used this
    > method on many occasions.

    > 2 - Use a Speer SPE. Simple, but effective.

    I find just using a Big Agnes bag and matching pad (I use CCF in hammocks) works well, and works in any hammock I use as well as on the ground (latter only with an insulated air pad due to old bones). I may be easy to please, but I'm definitely warm.

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    Why not just sew a length of ripstop to the bottom of your SB to create a pad pocket, like the Big Agnes bags?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FishinFinn View Post
    Why not just sew a length of ripstop to the bottom of your SB to create a pad pocket, like the Big Agnes bags?
    Good question - but I dunno how to sew.

    Jim

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