I'm agreed that the best route is to insulate under the hammock and go quilted inside. Using a pad in the hammock is just frustrating.

I wish the bug netting was removeable on the HH. Making the hammock warm by insulating on the outside is fine but then you have to contend with the bottom entry...

Has anyone, shudder, cut the netting off their HH?

Maybe the HH is best for three seasons and a top loader like the Speer or Crazy Creek better for winter, only because of the user access issues.

I'm sold on the concept of the Asym design of the HH and that is why I bought it, but I'm not married to it. It is demonstrably better for anyone?

I may try again tonight with the Crazy Crib and put a sleeping bag on the outside with a space blanket in the sleeve. Report to follow...