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    Senior Member Michelle the Camper's Avatar
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    trying to make whoopie slings

    I have not yet succeeded with the bury... but this helped
    http://www.samsonrope.com/site_files...ing_Splice.pdf

    Any more tips?

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    Here's the best explanation of the process I've ever read. It's written by WV (David), a learned HF member and DIY guru. This was the "ah-ha" moment for me. Once I got it using WV's instructions, I've really enjoyed making whoopie slings and have never had any trouble. NEVER NEVER NEVER use tape on your tapers to try to make a fid out of the amsteel. It gums up and gets stuck and makes a mess (in my experience).


    WV says:

    "If I understand you correctly, you may be using too short a taper. I pull out two strands about 2" from the end and cut them off as close to the main rope as possible. Then I pull two more strands about 1.5" from the end and cut them off. Then I poke the splicing tool of choice backwards through the eventual bury and grab the tapered end about .75" from the end. That way the small ends of the taper fold back, but don't reach the point where the first strands were cut off, and the doubled portion you pull through is the same diameter or smaller than the main rope. It also helps to enlarge the hole where the splicing tool exits the bury by pushing the rope together to loosen the braid and then pulling it against the splicing tool in both directions to make the exit hole larger. (Do this before you grab the tapered end.) When you pull it through, grab the bury and milk it back over the tapered end.

    This is the fail-safe method. In practice I often use a shorter taper, but do it this way first. Once you get the hang of it you'll adjust to suit yourself. Good luck!
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    I use floral wire and I recently made a tool that works great. I doubled up a 3-feet long piece of floral wire and wrapped the ends around a short piece of tubing.
    The tool is shaped like this: ------------------|

    The working end of the tool is the loop of floral wire with a soft "nose" for spreading the strands. The tube keeps the amsteel from sliding off the back of the floral wire.

    Good luck. It's fun.
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    I measure the rope and mark my places with a pencil. Then I cut off three strands about 1 inch back. I use a plastic yarn needle (blue in a four pack at Walmart). I slide it in, slide it through, and pull it out. Seriously, I can make a whoopie in about 10 minutes like this. Not incredibly fast, but fast enough for me and not frustrating like some people experience.

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    Scads of advice in a search

    Distinguish between whether folks are pushing or pulling the bury. You can do it either way.

    My suggestion, at least when starting, is to open the line by inserting and stacking it on a knitting needle. Then carefully withdraw the needle.
    Makes it easier to push OR pull the bury. In fact, done right a taped tapered bury can sometimes be inserted and passed all the needed way with almost no milking at all.

    Size of needle? Depends on the line.

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    I still have problems, making whoopies. Will be making another set, for the 7 yards, I just ordered today from this sites vendor.

    It's tough, for me too.. I will use a section of wire with hook, bury that in the amesteel, tape it for a taper. Add some hand lotion for Lube, Pliers for helping it along.. Done. works for me.

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    I may have to jump around in counter clockwise circles on my left foot and say an incantation or two B4 trying again. I did make two bug nets to relieve my amsteel frustration. Was feeling better, then saw your KILLER bug nets, Pips! Guess I may make more.

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    Patience and use your finger nails to pull the outer layer a little at a time. But mainly patience.
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    The taper is the key. I make my tapers a little long, and have been known to wrap the tip in blue masking tape to keep the frays down.

    I use a doubled piece of thin copper wire to pull my buries through...

    It takes patience, fear, surprise and an almost fanatical devotion to the ... oh ... wait... nm... just patience.
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    First, taper the ends. Then, taper the ends. Oh, did I mention to taper the ends.
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    Gonna go get a Dritz #1 Loop turner. Saw it on another thread and for $4, if I can't get the bury in the amsteel, I can at least use it to poke somebody and have a laugh

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