When winter comes....

[Girotogo]

Once there is enough snow.... I normally use my jarbridge UQ and an air mattress. I was thinking not to bring the air mattress and just use the jarbridge and make a poncho liner UQ. What do you guys think....just as warm as the UQ and thermarest or won't work as well. I want to prepare for temps in the teens and 20s. Any thoughts or suggestions. I just want to get rid of the thermarest. Keeps slide out of position throughout the night.

[Lost_Biker]

Really depends on if your a hot or cold sleeper. I'm a cold sleeper and 45* with a poncho liner UQ isn't enough for me. 20* would have me walking quickly to some place warmer!

From most here on the forum the poncho liner UQ is only good to the 40's or so. Have you tried deflating your thermarest a bit? It may help keep it under you better. I use a Big Agnes Insulated Air Core partially deflated so it conforms to my hammock better and have used it down to the 30's, but below that didn't work without lots of clothes.

[Girotogo]

I deflated my theremarest. Guess I move around a lot so I wake up when it moves from under me. Any suggestions? Would a blue foam pad move around too?

[Cannibal]

No thing in the world is as good of a teacher as experience. In that spirit, I say try it!

The poncho liner may trap enough heat released by the Jarbridge to keep you comfy and prevent the breeze from stealing that warmth away.
Or, it might not. I'd be interested to hear the results either way as this would be a much lower cost option for those who don't like pads and lack the budget for a winter underquilt.

With regards to the pad moving around; have you tried putting little dabs (dots) of silicone on the bottom of the pad? I know that was a pad trick I used early on and it worked OK. Still had to deal with the Pad-Dance when climbing into the hammock, but once settled in, the pad seemed to stay in place.

[pgibson]

I would anticipate that you would get a 10-15 degree boost in warmth adding a P-liner outside of the quilt. I have been experimenting with using one of the table cloths as a UQ Protector/wind shield this summer. A couple of times I skipped using a leg pad with just he addition of the table cloth as an extra layer hung loosely under the hammock and UQ. Seemed to add a good bit of warmth. The key will be that you want the P-liner loose enough to not compress the Jarbidge but not so loose that you have a spot of a substantial air gap. Thats the tricky part.