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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    Huh, guess I figured Amsteel was Amsteel, and the stuff I have definitely doesn't have any extras. Lol. Is it the same stuff, or a different material?
    I don't think so. It has a more silky feel, like polyester and it is oddly "floaty". It is green/red and is pretty strong, I used it to lock any bury I made.

    I read somewhere that it is a Redden anti counterfeit measure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    I love to use this on my tarps.....No-Tangle Guy Line.
    Easy to see and does not reflect.
    Shug
    Been using that myself the past couple years and it's good stuff. Holds up pretty well too.

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    Just finished a giant whoopie (7/64 Amsteel from Redden) to use as a Single Line (tarp/hammock) Suspension (SLS); see Bearchaser's presentation: http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=32421.

    It extends from 13.5 to 21.25 feet. I'll conduct an experiment to see if the SLS works for me. If it does then the addition of a strap and buckle system will extend the range to almost 40 feet.

    I've done the math but wonder how much tension I can crank into the single line to make the experiment work as desired.

    Even if it does not work then I still have a tarp ridge line that complements the hammock whoopies.

    Mike

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    Hrm...abrasion, didn't think of that...1.75 zing-it ordered!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    It certainly works, because people do use it, though I didn't like it much. Using it as a ridgeline is certainly less than optimal. It frays pretty easy, so it doesn't get along with bark very well. I ran into the problem of it friction welding in prussics, which obviously is no good. And, being nylon, it stretches, especially when wet - and that's exactly when you don't want a limp tarp! Lol.

    I preferred paracord, however marginally, until I got Zing-It.

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    I am using 1.9mm TechLine from DIY Gear Supply.
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    Most people uses ropes equivalent to bacon which is amsteeel blue or zing it. They all make me very happy they are strong light and awesome.
    Bacon and Camping makes me happy.

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    This breaks the trend a bit, I use a luminous type of paracord, holds up a british army basha no problem, never had an issue with stretch either, I tie an evenk one end and a trucks hitch the other, tight enough for me, prussiks hold fast and provide a weak link to save the tarp just in case (although it is designed to be used for medical evac in the field, should be tough) Jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burning_Daylight View Post
    Right now I'm using some utility line I picked up at Walmart 45' for under $2.
    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Attwood-Di...-Line/16350992
    It works with figure nines well, it was cheap, no stretch, and local, so I'll use it for now.
    This stuff looks good to have. I think I might give this a whirl!

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    I use para cord for ridge line. 50 ft of it. Then use the thin version of this.

    http://www.brms.com/msr-reflective-5...FQQEnQodOT8Avw

    for my guy lines. That attach to the tiny s biners from niteeyes that are attached to the tarp via shock cord. The shock cord gives so the tarp dont tear. The biners will break before the tarp tears. The para cord I also use for other stuff as needed just cut it off. And if you use the right type of knot para cord is not going to stretch. I go around the tree one direction. loop the cord over the ridge line and then back around the tree the other direction, repeat. It winchs the para cord super tight. Works like a pully. You can use that technique as a winch. Just have to be carefull because you can get it tight enough to pop the cord. Usally 3-4 passes is all that is needed and I dont have any issues with stretch. oh and the tarp attachs to ridge line with tiny prussiks made out of that same relective guy line but use the metel tiny s biners to attach tarp to ridge line. If the guy lines fail, the tarp will just flap in the wind. I dont want the connection of tarp to ridge line to fail and have my tarp blown into brush, trees, barbwire fence...... It works for me HYOH

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcnick34 View Post
    I saw the post about hammock ridge lines but what type of cord/rope do people use for tarp ridge lines?

    I currently just have paracord, but am new so I don't really know if this is adequate or not - it's just what I had available.

    Is the paracord going to stretch too much? What types of cord would be better? Why?

    Thanks for sharing
    About any line that doesn't stretch will work best. You can use paracord or mason line, but both stretch. In windy or foul weather you can lose a taut pitch on your tarp. The only time I ever got wet was using a mason line ridgeline. It stretched enough during a t-storm that my hammock got wet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gresh View Post
    Is there a reason nobody's mentioned Amsteel? Is it not that great for a ridgeline?
    Lash-it and Zing-it are Amsteel, but of a smaller diameter. Amsteel is a brand name for dyneema lines.


    Quote Originally Posted by cliff369 View Post
    I'm experimenting with 7/64 amsteel because I have 150' but I'm having a very difficult time making a prusik hold. Need help. Any suggestions?
    Prussics work best if they are of a smaller diameter than the line they are applied to. If it doesn't hold with 2-3 wraps, then the line is too large.

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