whats wrong with my whoopies?

**chapinb** · 10-13-2012, 19:15

Pic 3. The line that goes up (bury). Is that line connected to the fixed eye?

**bowl-maker** · 10-13-2012, 19:19

that was my question too

**Catavarie** · 10-13-2012, 19:40

Ok so if I'm understanding correctly, the whoopie is slipping and the brummel is holding fine. If that is the case then once you have your whoopie set to the correct length. Take the free end of the whoopie and tie a splippery half hitch at teh end of the whoopie bury. This will keep your line off the ground and help to prevent the whoopie from slipping.

**gargoyle** · 10-13-2012, 19:52

Originally Posted by chapinb

Tapers and milking the bury has nothing to do with your the whoopie slipping. Taper and milking only apply to the fixed eye.

Milking the outer section is absolutely neccessary.
After you do any adjustments to a whoopie, always "milk" the outer section to its fullest length. The outer section "accordian" or chinese finger trap effect is the essential grasping device. Without it milked out to its full length it does not grab effectively. Milk it out long and see if it helps.

In reality the taper is suggested by the manufacturer to reduce stress where the rope transitions in size from double thick to single thick rope.

**flatline** · 10-13-2012, 20:09

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is your locked brummel loop in the lower line on the right of this photo?
and milk your bury.

**hangnout** · 10-13-2012, 20:15

Originally Posted by chapinb

Pic 3. The line that goes up (bury). Is that line connected to the fixed eye?

Originally Posted by bowl-maker

that was my question too

I think they are saying you have the wrong line tied to the hammock

It looks that way in the last pic to me

You will have to start over to make them work right. If you just switch the lines you will have a very long line from the hammock to the bury resulting in a very short adjustment loop

**woodasptim** · 10-13-2012, 20:21

The hammock should be tied to the outside line, not the inside.

This is backwards.

**bowl-maker** · 10-13-2012, 20:31

Originally Posted by Catavarie

Ok so if I'm understanding correctly, the whoopie is slipping and the brummel is holding fine. If that is the case then once you have your whoopie set to the correct length. Take the free end of the whoopie and tie a splippery half hitch at teh end of the whoopie bury. This will keep your line off the ground and help to prevent the whoopie from slipping.

I respectfully disagree...in my experience Amsteel does not hold knots well. if the splicing is done properly there should be no need for a structural knot.

**mrmike65** · 10-13-2012, 20:33

I can't quite see in the pic showing the whole whoopie, but it looks like you have your hammock connected to the end that runs inside the bury. Your hammock should be attached to the end that runs on the outside.

**SilvrSurfr** · 10-13-2012, 21:17

Originally Posted by mrmike65

I can't quite see in the pic showing the whole whoopie, but it looks like you have your hammock connected to the end that runs inside the bury. Your hammock should be attached to the end that runs on the outside.

That is one bizarre whoopie. I think you are right, and if you are, there's no way you get much "chinese finger trap" tension on the whoopie; hence, it slips. I had to pull out a whoopie just to confirm that's what I thought I was seeing. It's like a dyslexic whoopie.

The only way you could make a whoopie this way is by doing the adjustable loop (bury) first. Once you've created the adjustable loop, you make the fixed loop using the piece of Amsteel coming out of the bury, rather than the Amsteel in which the loop is buried (which is the normal way).

I think this is indeed a backwards whoopie, based on the photographic evidence. If you can get a closeup of the fixed loop attaching to the hammock and where the bury for the adjustable loop starts, we can confirm.