Cheap pole mod for DIY Winter Dream tarp

**bowl-maker** · 10-23-2012, 15:35

Originally Posted by wwk10

Do the guylines from the pull outs serve any purpose?
I use those lines just to pull the tarp sides out and make more room.
Doesnt your pole mod do that?
I guess I am asking: Cant you just use the poles w/o the guy lines?

yep you can absolutely just use the pole...it was just windy that day and the wind was pushing one side in a bit

**bowl-maker** · 10-23-2012, 15:36

Originally Posted by trhang

As you note, the "outside" pole mod has been around for a while. I posted my attempt and links to several other related threads here: http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=56396

thank you for the references

**aschurr** · 10-23-2012, 16:11

That's why I love this site because of all the ingenuity and ideas.thank for new ideas

**daveocelott** · 10-24-2012, 08:09

Yeah I got my tent poles from a couple dead tents my father had lying around. I was planning on trying to make a hammock out of the rip stop from the tents but once deconstructed there wasn't really enough. Made a ton of draw string bags instead. Dicks sporting goods sell replacement poles for dome tents. Think they r around 10.

**Resqsarge03** · 10-24-2012, 11:14

Clever idea! I am wondering if the pipes really do much since you have tie outs there. What does it look like without the tie outs on the pipe anchor points on the tarp?

**bowl-maker** · 10-24-2012, 11:40

Originally Posted by Resqsarge03

Clever idea! I am wondering if the pipes really do much since you have tie outs there. What does it look like without the tie outs on the pipe anchor points on the tarp?

I doesn't pull out as well unless you use a hiking pole to leverage the pull higher with the ropes. Otherwise the ropes pull down and don't provide the same amount of interior space.

**bowl-maker** · 02-25-2013, 08:01

OK...I messed around with the Winter Dream pole mod some more. I didn't like having to use hardware to hold my poles, so I went with clove hitches and I must say I was very impressed. My thinking was that most of the force on the know will be lateral to the poles, and they held really well. I would like to reiterate that I love the pole mod because it not only pulls the fly out but it pulls it UP as well, providing a lot of head and side space in the tarp.

I am amazed at how light the poles are! I plan to cut them into thirds and use couplings. I am also planning a pole pocket in the middle on both sides so that I can do a single interior center pole mod and see how it turns out.

**Brute1100** · 02-25-2013, 08:16

Would also work if you drilled a small hole in the cpvc and then use a nacrabiner out of ZingIt or something like that... Just an idea...

**bowl-maker** · 02-25-2013, 09:19

Originally Posted by Brute1100

Would also work if you drilled a small hole in the cpvc and then use a nacrabiner out of ZingIt or something like that... Just an idea...

I had thought about that, as well as putting a groove in the end of the pole. However, I don't want to weaken the poles any more than necessary and also was looking for a non-hardware method of attachment (although I love the nacrabiner!).

**Brute1100** · 02-25-2013, 10:16

Originally Posted by bowl-maker

I had thought about that, as well as putting a groove in the end of the pole. However, I don't want to weaken the poles any more than necessary and also was looking for a non-hardware method of attachment (although I love the nacrabiner!).

I look at a nacrabiner as "software"... No damage to tarp when you stuff it in the same sack... And no weight penalty so what's to worry...