Nope, I'm not at long last getting soaked by condensation in my HH non-breathable Super Shelter or or space blanket in my Pea Pod or VB clothing anything else I sometimes use. Though I guess I would deserve it with all that non-breathable stuff!
I really felt like just posting this over in this thread: http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=62400
but then thought it might be hijacking, because this concerns tents as much as hammocks, so thought I'd better just do a new thread. So forgive me Yessiree if this dilutes your thread, and mods if needed can just put all this right back into your thread and close this one, fine with me!
So let's see: Yessiree's TQ was really covered with condensation. Apparently about the entire TQ and not just the head area. Shug pointed out his very helpful frost bib solution. To which Yessiree replied:
The year of the first huge Yellowstone fires ( 87? 88? ), 1st week of September, a buddy and I went on my first trip back to WY's Wind Rivers since my NOLS course there a few years previous. I was taking a minus 5 rated Marmot bag with a Gore-Tex shell. He had a 20 or 25 rated semi-rectangular bag with a regular shell, might not even have been DWR. I was a little concerned that might be a little marginal, though we would be inside a 4 season TNF West Wind 2 man tent, which had proven quite bomb proof. ( though small- I'd hate to be trapped there for long with another stinking guy) I offered him my GTX bivy for a little extra warmth and water protection, but he refused it saying he did not think he would need it and did not want to carry it.
So, flew to SLC Utah, got the rental car, drove 4 or 5 hours to the WY trail head at 9100 ft, and started hiking in at night. Camped 1st night under the stars at Big Sandy lake, looking at the silhouettes of jagged peaks in the night sky. Spent the next night a little higher at Black Joe Lake, then next day hiked over Jack *** pass to camp at the Cirque of the Towers and Lonesome Lake. We were going to spend a couple of nights there and go back the way we came, but my buddy gets the idea to go out by a different route. So we look at the maps, and make my 1st ever trip over wild and wooly Texas Pass, planing to do a big loop back to the car.
Now let me say that for the trip so far, there had not been a low below 40, no wind and no rain. Truly his decision to leave the bivy behind was pure genius, plus I was probably carrying too much bag. But after we get down from Texas Pass and start heading west on a trail, we see a storm heading our way with lightning striking the trail! We camp by a lake and it drizzle rains all night and all the next day, maybe the occasional hard rain. But now things go awry for my buddy. We had the tent pitched perfectly, and I was not even aware of it raining all that hard, but my bud wakes up to a bag soaked in the foot area. We never could figure out how water got in that 4 season tent. At the foot end was a small vent, but it was very close to the ground and very well covered by the tent's fly. You would think even side ways rain would have trouble getting past a fly covered vent only a few inches off the ground. But water came from some where, and my bag was fine and the last foot or so of his bag was quite wet. And, we had to pack up in the rain and get going. It kept drizzling or raining on us all day.
That night, to escape the stink and snoring, I slept out under an overhanging rock, as the rain continued. We set the tent up for my buddy. The front went through, and it dropped to 15F. He froze his butt off for a long miserable night, plus his boots froze solid. Poor guy had a miserable night, but you pays your money and you take your chances. The good news was we were hiking out to the car that day, so it could have been a lot worse, as there was no sunshine for drying down.
I'll give the reason for this rambling in the next post.