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    3/4 Length Under Quilt:At what temp will my feet get cold?

    I have a 20* Incubator that is nice for most everything, however, I am looking at picking up a 40* Phoenix for the warmer 60+ degree nights.

    Is it possible to take a Phoenix down to 60* without any kind of pad or insulation under your feet? I've tried my hammock in the summer without an UQ and froze (never believed it would happen) and have also roasted with my 20* Incubator.

    In my head a 40* Phoenix makes sense, but I just wanted to check before I pulled the trigger.

    Thanks

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    I have a 20 degree Phoenix and I find as long as my feet are in foot box of quilt I don't need any pad until around 40 degrees. I do wear pair of smartwool socks to sleep in.
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    My feet don't tend to get cold till the mid to lower 40s in my quilt. But I also wear a pair of wool socks at night. A small sheet of reflectix (about 16x12) slid in the footbox keeps my tootsies warm down below freezing with a 3/4 UQ.
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    A section of stiff blue 1/2" foam from Wally World holds the foot box of my TQ into a short barrel for my feet. It adds many degrees to just-wool-socks. But, I'll change to a softer foam or go back to two pairs of socks, the outer larger and with a more wiry yarn and stiffer knit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemostiX View Post
    A section of stiff blue 1/2" foam from Wally World holds the foot box of my TQ into a short barrel for my feet. It adds many degrees to just-wool-socks. But, I'll change to a softer foam or go back to two pairs of socks, the outer larger and with a more wiry yarn and stiffer knit.
    I do the same with the a small 20"x16" blue pad stuffed into the end of my sleeping bag. Have done this down to 32F and it works for myself.
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    I can usually run without a foot pad till it gets down into the low 40's. I've been experimenting this year to see what point I would need a pad by wearing only my low ankle thin sock liners and shorts and a short tee shirt. I found that I noticed the backs of my calves getting cold first and then later in the night my feet.

    Another thing I want to try is wrapping my puff jacket around the footbox to see if I can comfortably and reliably run without a foot pad. Currently I carry a foot pad and a piece of reflectix for CBS, my thought was to leave the pad at home and drop 3-4 oz.

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    If I put my feet into my down gilet, and rest my feet on my foam pack pad, the 20s are comfortable. without the foam, I'm good down to freezing.

    I sleep warm.

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    I am able to get down to 25*+ without a foot pad if the in the footbox of the quilt.
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    I just got back from my first freezing/below freezing hang, and I had a 20degree HG phoenix with 2 oz overstuff. I was fine using a 20 degree slumberjack bag down to freezing with cotton socks, t-shirt and cotton work pants. I got snowed on that morning. When the temp droppbed below that I slept in fleece long johns (tops and bottoms) and thick Rocky wools boot socks. I was afraid of my feet getting cold, as depending how I lay they were pressed against the wall of the hammock...So I took a note from the mighty Shug, but instead of wrapping my fleece jacket around the foot end of my hammock I wrapped it around the foot end of my sleeping bag. Just zipped up the jacket and crammed my feet/lower legs into it, while they were in the sleeping bag. No cold foot problems, no foot pad, and my jacket was warmer to put on in the morning. I was in a canyon, and the cold air settled there, I was in the upper teens without a problem.

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