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    Hiker Pole Side Pullout for Tarp

    I did this for a simple overniter in high wind, rain, etc. It worked fantastic with my BMJ. Poles set to 130 and looped right at the ends.

    I call it Castle Greyskull. In the pic the corners are not set right so there is draped material.

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    No excessive downward pressure from the poles onto the tarp ridge line. Only slightly more than weight on poles.

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    I'm really interested in trying this method but my biggest fear is that I will wake up to a pair of bent poles in the morning. Has anyone bent their poles after trying this out? How much tension should the lines have that are connecting the tie-out points to the ends of the poles? I currently use Helinox DL145 poles. Maybe I'm being a little too cautious...

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    By the way, I forgot to mention that I will be trying this on a Superfly with a continuous ridgeline. The continuous ridgeline will be over my tarp and the middle of my poles will be resting on top of the line.

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    I just realized that this thread is almost 2 years old... *cricket* *cricket*

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    I'd be very surprised if there would ever be enough force to bend your hiking poles. I would think the guy lines would get pulled up first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkc107 View Post
    I'm really interested in trying this method but my biggest fear is that I will wake up to a pair of bent poles in the morning. Has anyone bent their poles after trying this out? How much tension should the lines have that are connecting the tie-out points to the ends of the poles? I currently use Helinox DL145 poles. Maybe I'm being a little too cautious...
    I still use this setup with my WL Big Daddy .. Never had a problem .. I just wouldn't use it in snow .. It flattens out the RL .. Rain and high winds have never been a problem in this mode ..
    "The wise man questions others wisdom because he questions his own, the foolish man because it is different from his own." Leo Stein

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    Good to know Black Wolf. I don't think we'll get much snow this year in California so hopefully I don't run into any issues there. Can't wait to try this out!

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    Here's my hiking pole mod on the WB Superfly this past weekend:
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    IMG_6258.jpg

    You can see a slight bend in each pole from the tension of the tarp, but I haven't noticed any long-term effects on the poles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joker421 View Post
    Here's my hiking pole mod on the WB Superfly this past weekend:
    IMG_6256.jpg
    IMG_6258.jpg

    You can see a slight bend in each pole from the tension of the tarp, but I haven't noticed any long-term effects on the poles.
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    Joker,

    Thanks for the pictures. Do you think it would help to add a prusick to the ridgeline to slide the poles through so they have less of a chance of sliding around? I think it would make setting it up a little more difficult.

    Also, do you use fixed lines to attach your poles to the tarp or use Tendertoe's method with the prusicks?

    Sincerely,
    Dave-O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave-O View Post
    Joker,

    Thanks for the pictures. Do you think it would help to add a prusick to the ridgeline to slide the poles through so they have less of a chance of sliding around? I think it would make setting it up a little more difficult.

    Also, do you use fixed lines to attach your poles to the tarp or use Tendertoe's method with the prusicks?

    Sincerely,
    Dave-O
    I haven't noticed enough movement from the poles to warrant adding prussics to the RL at the pole intersections, but I haven't used this in super-windy conditions either.

    As for the lines attaching the poles to the pull-outs, I made small zing-it whoopie slings. They're adjustable from about 5" to 12-15". This allows me to wrap the adjustable eye around the end of the pole a couple times and cinch it down til I get the right pitch.

    I'm still tinkering with it, but it has worked great so far. If I come across any major drawbacks in different conditions, I'll post it here, but for now I love the dual use of the hiking poles (and not carefully packing those nano lite tent poles).

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