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    Try seat belts from a junk yard.

    They must be close to 3 inches wide.

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    Have you see a copy of the regulations requring 3" straps ?
    I am still 18 but with 52 years of experience !

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    2 inch Nylon

    Hey gang,

    I called the Mo Parks & Nat Resource people this morning to verify the 3 inch rule and was told they prefer 2 inch nylon strapping, but that you should call each individual park to see what their preference is. So it's not an across the board rule. It may have been that specific location wanted 3 inch strapping used.

    If you want to verify this I called Jeff City at (800) 334-6946.

    EDIT: Just called Washington Park in Desoto, and they prefer 2 inch straps be placed over something to insulate the tree from damage. So it's probably less about the size of the straps and more about protecting the tree from damage.

    As someone else mentioned, I'm thinking scrap carpet!

    Also note, that no one I spoke with was pleased with the idea of hammocks in the parks. Their fear is that the straps will damage the bark and leave the trees susceptible to insect infestation. To be honest, that's a valid point.
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    Honestly I think this is getting a bit rediculous.
    I have no problem bringing/using straps as a sign of good will...

    But ever seen a climber hunting stand? Ever seen hunting accesories that SCREW into to the tree? The climbers lever into the tree with more force then we ever will, and with spikes to hold. And the trees are fine.
    Trees are **** tough, and while I don't mind going out of my way to be better to them then the next guy lets be realistic and admit thay a few softer verieties aside, the average tree will have no problems with you hanging directly from a rope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scryan View Post
    Honestly I think this is getting a bit rediculous.
    I have no problem bringing/using straps as a sign of good will...

    But ever seen a climber hunting stand? Ever seen hunting accesories that SCREW into to the tree? The climbers lever into the tree with more force then we ever will, and with spikes to hold. And the trees are fine.
    Trees are **** tough, and while I don't mind going out of my way to be better to them then the next guy lets be realistic and admit thay a few softer verieties aside, the average tree will have no problems with you hanging directly from a rope.
    I understand they're going overboard, but I also know that when a decision is made they don't have responsible individuals like the HF group in mind. They have to plan for the lowest denominator and those are the people I often find myself picking up after to keep the wildlife from becoming entangled or keep plastic bits from being ingested.

    I personally don't find it that big a deal. So I have to go a little bit further to meet their criteria - so what? As hammock campers, if we show we're a responsible lot we could change the way the MO Parks Department thinks of us.

    Just a thought...
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    Here's a possible solution if the strap is actually 3 inches. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/328374

    Stole this from another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoffman View Post
    Here's a possible solution if the strap is actually 3 inches. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/328374

    Stole this from another thread.

    LOL!

    That's... interesting?
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    That is interesting. I have hung in a few parks without issues, although I never saw a ranger. I know in my county, St Charles, they will boot you out. No hanging anything from a tree, including food bags. Hang nothing. At least that is what the large bald burly man with the badge and gun told me

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    I've never had an issue, but I dont usually hang in campgrounds. I'm out on the backpacking trails.
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    Henessy tree huggers are 2 inch . Two time around the tree gives you 4 inches on the back of the tree.
    The concerns might stem from the amount of diseases that our missouri forest are under attack from. Pines beetles ,dutch elm ,sudden oak death ,emerald ash borers,humans.
    The control over the human factor is about the only real control they have in the prevention of greater tree loss,so that is what they are active in.
    The job of preserving nature for the future outdoors people is a very hard job,as human nature does not have any long term survival instincts. Sadly the people we are battling for our parks are not the rangers ,but the trash droppers, name carvers ,sign shooters,switch back short cutters, fire bugs, and off road vehicles that are not even supposed to be on the hiking trails causing erosion problems.
    Sad to think we are the vessels of our own destruction.

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