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    I had a problem getting my ground hog staked out of the frozen ground this past weekend. I also ended up breaking one in half. Then SilentOrpheus just said to give it one more whack in and voila.... they slid right out.

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    undocumented use for ti trowel

    Quote Originally Posted by cfi on the fly View Post
    My problem has always been getting them out of frozen ground. The ground hogs go into the frozen stuff pretty easy with a wack from a stick or something. Pouring hot water around the base f the stake to loosen it up sounds like a good idea if you have water and fuel to spare.
    I just use my Ti trowel to chip them out. Also helps to have an eyelet with sturdy cord. Can put a stick or another peg through the cord loop to create a handle you can really pull on.
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    You can just use weights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cfi on the fly View Post
    My problem has always been getting them out of frozen ground. The ground hogs go into the frozen stuff pretty easy with a wack from a stick or something. Pouring hot water around the base f the stake to loosen it up sounds like a good idea if you have water and fuel to spare.
    Pee on 'em

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    I encountered this problem this weekend at the NJ Winter Hang and was totally unprepared. I arrived at night so logs/branches weren't an option (I didn't want to spend my evening searching a picked-bare campsite).

    NJRedneck loaned me a hammer, but my aluminum spikes just bent. Then I tried a thicker aluminum gutter spike - they bent even easier. Finally, I used some really cheap, thin stakes that came with a 12x12 Guide Gear tarp I bought last year. Surprisingly, these cheap, skinny stakes hammered right into the ground with zero bending and minimal resistance from the frozen soil. They didn't compress the soil and sliced right through. Not the result I expected.

    So I know these cheap skinny stakes work in frozen soil, but I'm still trying to get my head around whether a stick or log would work as a hammer. I have my doubts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle the Camper View Post
    Pee on 'em
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    Try 10" or 12" x 3/8"( 1/2" ) landscape spikes.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle the Camper View Post
    Pee on 'em
    Ha, ha, I was wondering who would say it first.

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    hard ground stakes

    Quote Originally Posted by G...Hawk View Post
    . . . . . . . . . . . .

    Try 10" or 12" x 3/8"( 1/2" ) landscape spikes.

    G
    these are the same spikes i had to use on Key West, a solid coral island, after i had similar issues w/ common tent stakes/pegs

    the campground office sold them, knowing what the guests would experience

    i, now, carry a full set in my kit, for ANY like contingencies

    though they add weight to my kit, a good night's sleep is worth it

    BTW: my beast of burden has 2 wheels & gets 45-50mpg, loaded

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    Try Vargo's Titanium Nail Pegs

    I used these at the NJ Winter Hang last weekend (same as SilvrSurfr). The ground was frozen solid. Folks were breaking MSR Groundhogs left and right. The titanium nails hammered right in and were easy to pull out 40+ hours later (no pee or hot water needed).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylan View Post
    Try Vargo's Titanium Nail Pegs

    I used these at the NJ Winter Hang last weekend (same as SilvrSurfr). The ground was frozen solid. Folks were breaking MSR Groundhogs left and right. The titanium nails hammered right in and were easy to pull out 40+ hours later (no pee or hot water needed).
    Ordering some of these beauties right now!

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