This is the Byer of Maine setup. Another good optionOriginally Posted by Wolle
This is the Byer of Maine setup. Another good option
I'm 275-280ish. I just tried this over night without issue (6in of snow and temps down to 16* F). I used a wood 3/4" closet rod. The only issue I had was that the Amsteel from the hammock got locked into the hole on the toggle a bit. I'm concerned that over time it will wear down the Amsteel too much. I think I made the hole in the toggle to big so I might try again with a smaller diameter hole.
The wood I used has a red bark color to it. Very hard, and is more like a small tree with a lot of branches. My Amsteel is slick after many uses, and along with my weight is just won't hold. If I had a rougher piece of wood, then I would worry it would snag on the Amsteel and cause it to wear over time.
I think the thing that stops me from wanting to use this system is the fiddle factor. It takes longer to adjust then a UCR, and when it's tight, it's hard to get undone. I had my hold drilled to the size of the Amsteel and it still got sucked up into the hole.
Maybe I'm missing something, but it's not for me at this point in time.
So I tried my dutch hooks yesterday. Worked out really well but the slip knot was a little difficult to pull out. If I tugged hard it would come. I did get some black residue on the whoopie hooks, may just be the black color coming off my Amsteel but I am a little skeptical.
P.S. The black fingers are from making loops not from using this suspension.
This is actually a double slip knot. When I used a single I got slowly lowered to the ground.
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Looks good. But are you going to keep using it? That was one of the reasons I didn't like using it. It would tighten down on itself, and wasn't that easy to adjust.
I took it off right after the photo and put it on my test hammock. I am going to play with it a little more and see if I like it.
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Aaaaggghhh!!!
I JUST finished making UCRs to replace my Whoopies. This really looks good for my indoor setup though, because Whoopies and UCRs are both too long to adjust properly since I only have 9'7" to hang in.
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You might be able to run you UCR/Whoopie through your connecting point and connect them together. Like this:
I saw this first on HppyFnGy's Turtle Dog Stand. I used this method on mine with a tree strap connecting the two whoopies together (larks head at the loop and MSH on the other end) since they didn't quite reach.
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Yeah like doogie said above. I use cord in a prusik and pass my suspension through that and connect them in the center with a soft shackle. On my new stand I even attached the soft shackle to the pole to make it easier to bring my suspension to it.
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I thought I'd post a few picts of my attempt. Sorry about my knot-lingo. I don't know what to call the tree-side rope. And I'm calling the free-end the "end of the rope".
Started with some pine dowel rod, and some 7/64 amsteel. The hold I drilled ended up being one size larger than 1/8". I couldn't get the line through the 1/8" hole... It sounds like some of you have, so perhaps I didn't try hard enough. I don't think it's too big of a deal though. I'll give a report on how well this worked under a real hammock load tomorrow. I gave it the "office" test already, but that's not saying a ton.
The one thing I'm concerned with is whether the rope will tighten up so much that it's hard to get off.
Top:
Bottom. Notice, you can radius that hole a little bit to stop the toggle from cutting into the line:
Wrap behind the tree side rope:
Make a loop with the end of the rope on the side close to you. That's crucial. If you have the end on the other side of the loop from you, it ends up all wrong, and doesn't hold. Here it is the right way:
Put the loop on the toggle, and tighten up to the rope:
Top ends up looking like this:
Bottom like this:
Then set up to put your continuous loop that's attached to your hammock. Put two loops into it, with the hammock-side of the line on top of both loops.
put one loop on each side of the toggle:
load it up:
It ends up looking like this:
and this:
If you're not sure about the toggle holding the knot, add another loop on the other side before adding the hammock. It actually ends up creating a clove-hitch that way:
bottom view:
Another alternative. I wouldn't really trust this, but maybe I'm just a chicken:
This option seems like it's putting too much strain in a way that may cause the toggle to cut into the tree-side line.
So there yah go! Seems pretty simple to me. I like the idea a lot! I'm not sure how to radius the bottom of the toggle easily. Mine ended up a bit ragged, because i just took the drill bit and reamed it out a bit. This seems like it would be sweet in aluminum, but I have no idea how to radius the bottom in aluminum rod.
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